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So are there any concrete rumors on whatever's new for next year? Aren't the chain announcements coming in August, or am I incorrect on that? I know last year there was A LOT of speculation, this year it's meh. I guess no one's expecting much for next year after Full Throttle this year, but I still expect MM to be MM and add a coaster that they don't need.

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^^Viper inherited the blue and yellow trains from Shockwave at SFGAm for parts when it was taken down. I agree that for SFMM having spare trains only to be used if one breaks is a bad investment. They can't even seem to keep the ones they have in running condition! You hit the nail on the head. Having spare trains from a dismantled coaster is completely different than paying for brand new ones to be only spares.

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^ August 30th is the date for the chain-wide announcements. I think most people on this thread are at a consensus that Iron Horse Colossus will be in 2015. So 2014 will maybe be a flat or something at Hurricane Harbor?

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Viper did inherit Shockwave's trains for spare parts. To my knowledge Viper has always had 4 trains. Orange, Red, Yellow and Brown.

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^ August 30th is the date for the chain-wide announcements. I think most people on this thread are at a consensus that Iron Horse Colossus will be in 2015. So 2014 will maybe be a flat or something at Hurricane Harbor?

 

It August 29th

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What makes me the most curious about the FT problem is that he said that the other train will have to go on the transfer for a few days too to fix the part. So then if the operating train has the broken part too, then why are they running it? Also, with that logic, shouldn't they be running both trains until the part comes in?

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I went to the park yesterday and FT had a 2 hour wait all day except for a period where it broke down for a reason I still don't know. I entered the line when it reopened and got 3/4 of the way up the ramp leading to the station and it still took 35 minutes to get on the ride. So I believe 2 trains makes a huge difference.

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What makes me the most curious about the FT problem is that he said that the other train will have to go on the transfer for a few days too to fix the part. So then if the operating train has the broken part too, then why are they running it? Also, with that logic, shouldn't they be running both trains until the part comes in?

 

Maybe because the "broken part" on the working train hasn't broke- yet, so why put it down if it still works safely?

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What makes me the most curious about the FT problem is that he said that the other train will have to go on the transfer for a few days too to fix the part. So then if the operating train has the broken part too, then why are they running it? Also, with that logic, shouldn't they be running both trains until the part comes in?

 

Maybe because the "broken part" on the working train hasn't broke- yet, so why put it down if it still works safely?

If it was a safety issue with the part, since the trains are the same, I don't think the other train would be running at all. It wouldn't make sense to me if they had a "let the part break before we do anything" mentality. My guess is that its something to do with the wear and tear on the train and keeping the trains in good condition.

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I went to the park yesterday and FT had a 2 hour wait all day except for a period where it broke down for a reason I still don't know. I entered the line when it reopened and got 3/4 of the way up the ramp leading to the station and it still took 35 minutes to get on the ride. So I believe 2 trains makes a huge difference.

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Really? I was there the same day and I remember it only taking about 30 minutes from were I got in line, which was at the bottom of the ramp. But the line probably would have been about 10-15 minutes or even less if there were 2 trains running, especially considering how fast the ride crews were going.

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If it was a safety issue with the part, since the trains are the same, I don't think the other train would be running at all. It wouldn't make sense to me if they had a "let the part break before we do anything" mentality. My guess is that its something to do with the wear and tear on the train and keeping the trains in good condition.

I don't think it was a preemptive removal for safety, because youre right that if that was the case the ride would have been completely closed. I got the impression it was an unexpected failure of a part on one of the trains and that part has not yet failed in the other train.

 

I don't think wear and tear is a possibility since the trains are so new. That being said I would assume that they would have ordered replacement parts for both trains, and while they continue to run the other train for now to avoid having to close the ride they will probably replace the faulty part in both trains as soon as they can.

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Just wanted to post a few observations from my visit last Thursday. This was the first time I had been to SFMM in probably 8 years so I wasn't sure exactly what to expect.

 

Was able to use the Discover Card early entry to my advantage and was the first train out on X2 of the morning. The last time I had rode it, it was just X. I had heard some negative things about the overall experience of the ride but I didn't get beat up too bad and still think this ride is quite remarkable. I rode it twice over the course of the day, is there any reason one train has working sound and one doesn't? Or is that just management not caring?

 

I had not rode Tatsu before since it was built after my last visit. Probably my biggest surprise of the trip, what an excellent ride, by far the best flyer I have been on.

 

Overall park experience was good. Crowds were not too heavy and most operating crews were working hard and were more friendly and energetic than I remember from before. Lex Luthor was open when I was there and thought it was an excellent drop ride with late brakes. As most have mentioned on here, Full Throttle was a nice surprise and overall a good addition to the park. I would like to see the park open later during the week, its unfortunate I wasn't able to really get any night rides in with the park closing at 9. Seems to be more of an industry trend I guess.

 

Just a few negative comments I had from my visit. Can anyone explain the one car operation during summer time? Is it a cost saving mechanism in terms of ware and tear or does adding an extra train require more staff? Waited at least double what I should have for Batman, Scream, and Superman. All three of these would have been very reasonable waits with a 2 car operation. Instead, I spent the most time in these lines because the capacity is so low with just one. I know Scream had a sign that said one train due to maintenance, but it still makes no sense in the dead of summer. The ride operators just stand around or goof off while the one train is out on the track. On Scream, numerous times the one car sat outside of the station because they weren't paying attention and weren't ready to clear it for entry. One side running on Superman was unbearable because Flash Pass users would come in and take up nearly a whole train at a time.

 

My only other negative comment (outside of the outrageous parking price) was in regards to Green Lantern. I had read about it here, but I was sure not prepared for the feeling of having my body ripped apart during this ride. Maybe my weight distribution was not correct, just wasn't a very pleasant ride experience.

 

With all that said, I look forward to getting a chance to make it back out some day!

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On Scream, numerous times the one car sat outside of the station because they weren't paying attention and weren't ready to clear it for entry.
Yeah I've seen that before, there's no excuse for that.
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Just a few negative comments I had from my visit. Can anyone explain the one car operation during summer time? Is it a cost saving mechanism in terms of ware and tear or does adding an extra train require more staff? Waited at least double what I should have for Batman, Scream, and Superman. All three of these would have been very reasonable waits with a 2 car operation. Instead, I spent the most time in these lines because the capacity is so low with just one. I know Scream had a sign that said one train due to maintenance, but it still makes no sense in the dead of summer. The ride operators just stand around or goof off while the one train is out on the track. On Scream, numerous times the one car sat outside of the station because they weren't paying attention and weren't ready to clear it for entry. One side running on Superman was unbearable because Flash Pass users would come in and take up nearly a whole train at a time.

 

My only other negative comment (outside of the outrageous parking price) was in regards to Green Lantern. I had read about it here, but I was sure not prepared for the feeling of having my body ripped apart during this ride. Maybe my weight distribution was not correct, just wasn't a very pleasant ride experience.

 

Scream:

There is absolutely no excuse for a coaster that has 3 trains to ever have only 1 train operation with the exception of off-season Jan-Mar. Scream rarely has a line but with 1 train during the summer the line can get past the entrance which is waaaaaay too long of a wait for Scream.

 

Goliath:

Rarely runs 3 trains anymore even though during the peak season June-Labor day it should run 3 trains as it 1 of the most popular coasters in the park.

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While SFMM is still on my park bucket list, it's almost not worth visiting other than getting the credits. The operations just sound bad (though if I recall correctly, they seem to be improving) and I'm not used to one train ops at many parks (besides weekdays at HW). Hopefully when I visit in a few years, things will get better.

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Went to the park, and it seems like SFMM has installed what appears to be a permanent queue for Full Throttle. It looks much nicer than those temporary rails. I also got to ride Green Lantern and it was probably the most amazing ride I have had in quite a while, with three full flips and landing into the station upside down, I hope to get more rides like these in the future!

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The whole thing with Scream is pretty awful, I seem to remember it having not run more than one train for months. It was running one train when I went in the end of March and when I went in December.

 

Well, at least it's better than nothing (or is it really).

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