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Wow I'm surprised to see so many psychics in one place, since so many can see the future disaster of SFMM bus/trams operations can you also see and tell me if an Intamin Giga is in SFMM future and the disaster of operations it will bring if any

 

It doesn't take a psychic to know what SFMM crowds + a bus can create. Have you ever tried to catch the tram back to the parking lot after a busy day? It's a war zone! Then, when you are on this enclosed bus with 159 of your closest teenage park buddies that smell fantastic (your actual friends weren't able to shove their way through the two doorways on this one, maybe they'll catch the next one), you can shake your head and go 'those TPR guys were right.'

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Wow I'm surprised to see so many psychics in one place, since so many can see the future disaster of SFMM bus/trams operations can you also see and tell me if an Intamin Giga is in SFMM future and the disaster of operations it will bring if any

 

It doesn't take a psychic to know what SFMM crowds + a bus can create. Have you ever tried to catch the tram back to the parking lot after a busy day? It's a war zone! Then, when you are on this enclosed bus with 159 of your closest teenage park buddies that smell fantastic (your actual friends weren't able to shove their way through the two doorways on this one, maybe they'll catch the next one), you can shake your head and go 'those TPR guys were right.'

 

I am actually wondering if this is going to be a chain wide thing. (like slowly incorperating these "trams" into all of their parks)

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The only time I've witnessed a physical fight at a park was at SFMM and it was about getting into the stupid trams. And like others have pointed out, that's with people queuing for each row. With only two bus entrances...yeeesh...yeah good luck.

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Oh yawn the record playing of SFMM is a ghetto dump warzone is played out, I've been going to this park for over 20+ years and it is not near bout as bad as you guys make it out to be. Anyways I'm not trying to argue I just think the buses will work out much better then you guys think they will and will be much better then those old smelly slow bumpy trams that they've been using. I guess we all will see how they work out this summer whether it's good or bad

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The Ski resort I worked at and have been going to for over 20 years has been using similar buses for the past 5+ years. This couldn't possibly be any worse than that.

*shakes head*

 

*face palm*

 

*insert any other internet meme here for amazingly stupid thing said that I'm in disbelief over*

 

I don't get it...

 

While the clientele may be different your actually much more likely to be stabbed on a ski bus.

*shakes head*

 

*facepalm*

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The trams may have been incredibly old and rough, but there is no way that a bus will be more efficient. You don't need to be a psychic to figure that out. And yes, getting on the trams at SFMM was hell when it was busy. It was absolutely not worth it on a busy day.

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After a week at Disney World riding their buses, with Disney fans, I can't imagine the SFMM buses.

 

I can say a lot of things but I'll refrain. I've always been a fan of walking, and now I'm an even bigger fan.

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If Disney can't figure out how to efficiently run their buses, what makes you think SFMM is going to be able to do it?

And to be fair, Disney runs their resort bus system VERY well.

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The Ski resort I worked at and have been going to for over 20 years has been using similar buses for the past 5+ years. This couldn't possibly be any worse than that.

*shakes head*

 

*face palm*

 

*insert any other internet meme here for amazingly stupid thing said that I'm in disbelief over*

 

I don't get it...

 

While the clientele may be different your actually much more likely to be stabbed on a ski bus.

Do you live in a snow globe or something? You know life actually exists outside of ski resorts, right?

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Yeah, I'm not discrediting Disney - but we were packed into the buses like sardines on multiple occasions - like a little too close for comfort on some occasions.

 

Not once, though, did anyone fight over seats, cut in line, or act rude.

 

On the West Coast, however, yeah, no comment. I'm sure people will be very polite and cooperative when it comes to loading the buses in an orderly fashion.

 

/sarcasm.

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So if SFNE got these busses, how many other Six Flags parks got them this year? This is the first I've heard of it...

 

They seem to be phasing them in, they run those in addition to the regular trams. There was a lot of pushing and shoving to get onto them (usually because people would get separated from their group and would be squeezed into the bus so they couldn't get back out to meet their friends who ended up on the next tram), and that's at Six Flags New England. I couldn't imagine this at SFMM.

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Yeah, I'm not discrediting Disney - but we were packed into the buses like sardines on multiple occasions - like a little too close for comfort on some occasions.

Right. But there's quite a difference between using buses as an actual "transportation system" that travel quite a distance between resort hotels and different parks on a 47 square mile property like Walt Disney World, and trams getting people from the parking lot to a park, which Walt Disney World also uses on those properties.

 

I'm not sure when you were at WDW or what resort you were staying at, but normally those buses only get that full during peak periods, or at the closing time of a park. And during those times, there is almost always multiple buses running, and it's not one bus going to all the resorts, there are about 15 different lines going to different locations. It's not uncommon for there to be around 30 buses at the Epcot resort bus area at the end of the night, ready to go!

 

At the end of a night at a park like Epcot, for example, there will literally be tens of THOUSANDS of people all pouring out of a park at the same time. And the fact that there is several options of transportation to get to where you're going, I do think Disney does a fantastic job of disbursing those people and getting them where they need to go fairly quickly, even if on the off-chance you may end up on a crowded bus, and I don't think they are the right comparison to make in this scenario for Magic Mountain.

 

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Yeah, I think for the number of guests, the number of resorts, and the certain times we boarded buses, they do an EXCELLENT job. I think the longest wait for a bus was 10-15 minutes. And I was totally expecting standing-room only based on what I've read on the internet.

 

My point was that I wouldn't hesitate to get on a Disney bus, even if it was full.

 

I was trying to say that I wouldn't even bother getting on a Six Flags bus in California. I hate fighting with people who cut in line, are rude, and ignore you when they know they stole your spot (that's happened at Disneyland on the trams).

 

It just seems asinine to have a fully-enclosed air-conditioned bus (extra fuel) to transport guests such a short distance. That short walk from the parking lot pales in comparison to the walking you'll do in the park.

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I'm also hoping they will alternate between these buses and the regular trams. Although I agree with others here that 9 times out of 10, I'm walking anyway. I'm way too impatient for most park tram systems.

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Maybe these busses work fine at a smaller location like SFNE, but (and I wish I could find a picture), when you witness the seething mass of humanity that is the SFMM crowd on a summer day, pushing onto a tram that has about 20 openings, it's going to look worse than any "gate lice" I've seen at LAX trying to squeeze into three small doors.

 

Simple logistics and match tells me that getting 120 people onto a vehicle with 20 openings is going to take significantly less than getting 120 people through three openings. But then again, since when has SFMM really worried about being efficient?

 

Parks don't use vehicles like this to get people from the parking lots to the entrance for a REASON.

 

EDIT: I just noticed...there are only TWO doors on those busses!

 

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