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Sounds like the park is running pretty well.

 

Really?

 

-Train Counts: X2 and Goliath were running two trains. Viper, Revolution, Scream!, Colossus, Apocalypse, Ninja, Riddler's Revenge, and Gold Rusher were running one, with signs posted at Revolution, Apocalypse, and Riddler's Revenge to notify riders before they entered the line. Batman The Ride had both trains on the track but was only loading one. Tatsu started with one train, then added a second when the line got long enough it was being held at the bottom of the stairs. The second was removed once it got back down to a station wait (when not in use, the second train was always parked in the second station).

 

Only 2 coasters running 2 trains on a consistent basis is "running pretty well"?

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To be fair, he did also say everything was a walk up...so you can't really blame the park in this instance. And he also noted they actually started running two trains on Tatsu when the line did back up for a bit.

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To be fair, he did also say everything was a walk up...so you can't really blame the park in this instance. And he also noted they actually started running two trains on Tatsu when the line did back up for a bit.

 

Yes. When almost everything is a two train wait at most (unless you want the front or back seat), and most of the rides were sending out empty rows, it seems like a poor business decision to run two trains as they're not necessary and it will only mean maintenance is required sooner. On Tatsu, they had the second train ready to go so once the demand for it arrived, they just sent a couple test cycles and began loading it, then just parked it once it was no longer necessary (interestingly, I heard people saying that they preferred one train on Tatsu even if the line is longer since you're not left hanging on the brakes...sounds like it's not just enthusiasts who hate Tatsu's operations). The only thing that I don't quite get is why both trains were being run on Batman, but only one was being loaded. I've seen this at Knott's as well, and to me it doesn't make sense to run a train and not load it (although I'm sure there's some reason for it that isn't apparent).

 

For the type of day the park had, they were running well enough (although as usual the employees could be more efficient on some of their rides...namely Tatsu and Scream). If there were 20+ minute waits for everything due to one train operations, then it would be a problem, but on a low crowd day running only a single train on all but the most popular rides is something I find perfectly acceptable.

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IF they are new trams, it's about time.

 

But these are obviously buses and if they are indeed the new "trams" then loading/unloading is going to be a LOT slower than it is currently.

 

I just can't help but wonder if these are for something else. Guess we'll see eventually.

 

I think there is more then one, of these new "trams". Only other thing I could see these being used for is employees. But I thought they already have something similar?

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Could be that they weren't all delivered at once and there are more. The buses seem like a good idea, especially with penny pinching Six Flags. You could run 3 or 4 buses on staffing for only 2 trams. The bus wouldn't require a safety spotter on the back so it's just the one driver. Also, I'm sure from a maintenance standpoint the old trams are too costly, where a new bus would be relatively easy to maintain.

 

Plus, as already stated, the buses would likely have AC and be much more comfortable for the passengers (though I'm sure that's just a plus and didn't factor into the purchase).

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in the comments section of the report

I’m hearing there will be six buses total. Two were delivered today. Each has 60 seats, but standing will be allowed, increasing capacity far beyond what the trams currently hold.

 

If that is true, that seems to make more sense..

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I think I'll be walking from the lot from now on if they are going to use accordion buses. I can't imagine the SFMM crowd trying to squeeze into one of the 3 entrances to those...these seem like a logistical nightmare for the park unless they plan on staffing the tram stops to maintain a single orderly line.

 

I would like to think they will be used for staff transportation or even some kind of service linking the park to Amtrak.

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Maybe there are plans which will involve moving part of the carpark (public or staff) so shuttles have to drive across a public road, in which case the trams might need seatbelts (but enclosed buses would not).

 

I know on the Warner Bros studio tour they have seatbelts on their carts specifically for the 10-second drive from the tour meeting area to the studio gate.

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Does anybody know of any other parks that use osculating buses for parking lot trams? It just seems to be a poor choice due to the bottleneck that will occur at the entrances. The more I think about it the more I'd like to think they will be used to transport guests / employees to and from the Valencia Amtrak Station, or a similar public transit hub. I mean, why would they need a system that is street legal anyway?

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Does anybody know of any other parks that use osculating buses for parking lot trams? It just seems to be a poor choice due to the bottleneck that will occur at the entrances.

SFNE added them for the beginning of the 2012 season and they've worked great. The A/C is really welcomed in the summer.

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Busses at SFNE.

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^ They do, but they also ran like, 40 of them, and it was more of a "transportation around the resort" system much like Walt Disney World than a parking lot tram.

 

I think I'll be walking from the lot from now on if they are going to use accordion buses. I can't imagine the SFMM crowd trying to squeeze into one of the 3 entrances to those...these seem like a logistical nightmare for the park unless they plan on staffing the tram stops to maintain a single orderly line.

Yeah, agreed. Maybe these busses work fine at a smaller location like SFNE, but (and I wish I could find a picture), when you witness the seething mass of humanity that is the SFMM crowd on a summer day, pushing onto a tram that has about 20 openings, it's going to look worse than any "gate lice" I've seen at LAX trying to squeeze into three small doors.

 

Simple logistics and match tells me that getting 120 people onto a vehicle with 20 openings is going to take significantly less than getting 120 people through three openings. But then again, since when has SFMM really worried about being efficient?

 

Parks don't use vehicles like this to get people from the parking lots to the entrance for a REASON.

 

EDIT: I just noticed...there are only TWO doors on those busses!

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