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I would really like to offer everyone some Cheese to go along with all this Whine....

 

Seriously, I understand that people are a little annoyed that the ride didn't meet all their hopes and dreams, but it's still a large scale addition. If this had gone to any other park, people wouldn't be as disappointed....

Has anyone ever told you that your posts really are completely obnoxious? And most of them don't even make sense.

 

--Robb "Someone needed to say it..." Alvey

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I like it, It may not be the best but it's still pretty good. The only real complaint i'll give is the color scheme. It could have been better then plain silver and black. I think its more of an eyesore then appealing. But I am anticipating how the flying snake dive would look like over the S:EFK entrance.

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I'm mostly concerned about capacity. This is easily the biggest, most visible coaster the park has built since Tatsu, and besides that, X2. I remember the days of 6-7 hour lines for X, and the lines for Tatsu have been pretty awful lately as well.

 

I think it's great they've built something unique and different, I just hope I'm wrong when I say that I think this ride could be as big of a capacity nightmare as X was when it first opened.

 

--Robb

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I would really like to offer everyone some Cheese to go along with all this Whine....

 

Seriously, I understand that people are a little annoyed that the ride didn't meet all their hopes and dreams, but it's still a large scale addition. If this had gone to any other park, people wouldn't be as disappointed....

Has anyone ever told you that your posts really are completely obnoxious? And most of them don't even make sense.

 

--Robb "Someone needed to say it..." Alvey

 

I think that may be a metaphore he was saying. At least I thought it was.

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I guess the overall opinion is that Magic Mountain is only supposed to make extreme rides which is crazy. This is still a Six Flags park and regardless it gets more large scale attractions than any other Six Flags park. Not to mention hid is the only park getting a new coaster unless you count Rattlers refurb as a new coaster. Just look at SFstl getting a 23 year old boomerang. Let's not knock the backward launch, until we ride it.

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I'm stoked for this ride. Launch coasters always give me that nervous, anxious feeling when you just sit there at the start, as oppose to the slow traditional climb. I think the tunnel is gonna bring an awesome sensation being pulled back then forwards at a high speed, and then up and over that top hat. I wonder how abrupt those brakes are going to be at the end. I've never seen a coaster come off a steep hill and then end like that! The snake dive looks wicked also.

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Wait a minute, I think I get where six flags is going with the backwords launch, since they're gonna have the tunnel full of fog, that may mean that you cant see anything but endless fog ahead when you stop, and launching backwards will give you that disorienting feel. But this probably won't hold true and if so, who knows how long Magic Mountain will have the fog up.

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I like the idea of the backward launch. Should give a pretty amazing sensation then launching forward out of the tunnel.

 

I don't pay much mind to early complaints about a coaster. People complained about Skyrush until the ride started construction. To me this looks like the most re-rideable coaster added to this park in forever.

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I understand what you said, but parks occasionally have spare trains that can be switched in when one has to be taken out for maintenance. You said that it was running two trains, not necessarily that that's all they would purchase, though I understand what you're saying. I just wanted to clarify, that's all. It's a year-round park, you would think they'd take initiative to keep up guest throughput year-round. But oh well.

 

Magic Mountain hasn't purchased an extra train for a ride since Viper. The "extra" trains they have ended up with were simply the result of the fact they can't run the rides they have to their intended capacity.

 

The pump houses are still there though so there may be some kind of water but I doubt the coaster will use it as a "Feature".

 

The pumps are so heavy, they will need a crane to be removed. Probably why they haven't been touched yet.

 

As for the ride? It's a credit to me. Hopefully it is exciting, but it certainly doesn't make me go "holy crap! I need to ride this NOW!".

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I'm mostly concerned about capacity. This is easily the biggest, most visible coaster the park has built since Tatsu, and besides that, X2. I remember the days of 6-7 hour lines for X, and the lines for Tatsu have been pretty awful lately as well.

 

I think it's great they've built something unique and different, I just hope I'm wrong when I say that I think this ride could be as big of a capacity nightmare as X was when it first opened.

 

--Robb

 

I'm hoping for the best in terms of capacity as well. I always try to give them the benefit of the doubt of being able to maintain great capacity with a new ride just because I'm always optimistic but sadly that hasn't been the case for some time now.. I'll keep my fingers crossed but I won't be holding my breath!

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I understand what you said, but parks occasionally have spare trains that can be switched in when one has to be taken out for maintenance. You said that it was running two trains, not necessarily that that's all they would purchase, though I understand what you're saying. I just wanted to clarify, that's all. It's a year-round park, you would think they'd take initiative to keep up guest throughput year-round. But oh well.

 

Magic Mountain hasn't purchased an extra train for a ride since Viper. The "extra" trains they have ended up with were simply the result of the fact they can't run the rides they have to their intended capacity.

 

As for the ride? It's a credit to me. Hopefully it is exciting, but it certainly doesn't make me go "holy crap! I need to ride this NOW!".

 

I think this ride could have been that if they had done something crazy craptacular in addition to the top hot and not just have it end like Kingda Ka. Like others had said.... given us a helix, have it play around the woods a little bit. Who knows. Overall the ride still looks fun, but could have been better.

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Not trying to blow it up already but isnt Storm Runner the fastest looping coaster? 72MPH....Unless by looping they mean LOOP only not other elements. Anyway, great addition to SFMM. Just wish i didnt live 2,500 miles away
I believe that's what they meant to convey - that you will be travelling through this particular loop at a higher altitude and faster speed than any singular loop in another coaster, not that this looping coaster is faster and taller than any other looping coaster.
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"The GP will eat it up" is the "She has a good personality" of the roller coaster world.

 

In that case, its a good thing coaster enthusiasts make up a very small portion of who actually goes to theme parks. Personally, I think its a great addition. I'm pretty sure all the same people who are saying this coaster looks "lame" are the same ones who said that about SUF at SFDK when it was announced, and that ride turned out to be pretty awesome.

 

The coaster enthusiast community will never be completely satisfied with new attractions. SFMM could have built a 600 foot coaster this year and people would still probably complain. I'll wait to ride it before I pass any judgement.

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If this had gone to any other park, people wouldn't be as disappointed....

The comments so far, to me at least, haven't been whiny but have instead expressed legitimate concerns. To your point above, you're right -- this would be a standout ride in other parks. But you have to keep in mind that SFMM has a history of mediocrity and missed opportunities. For many, this seemed like the first chance in a while to do something special by capitalizing on the prime real estate created by removing the log ride. And, while I'm sure the ride will be fun, it hardly seems special. Other parks, often much smaller and less-thrill oriented, are getting considerably more thrilling rides added to their collection that focus more on total design rather than the stitching together of a couple of Biggest!!!-Fastest!!!-Tallest!!! elements (that, more often than not, are snooze-worthy) while SFMM seems to continue down the same bombastic path -- which is probably, from a business perspective, a wise move. I don't think anyone here is saying it'll suck by any stretch, but it seems fairly obvious to most that it's a fraction of what it could have potentially been.

 

With that said, regarding the weird reverse launch thing, I can't imagine it would be possible due to the fact that the tunnel will be operating as a block brake, but if the stop, reverse, and relaunch were all taken very quickly without much pause, it could certainly provide an interesting sensation. That second launch on Speed was very apparent and, if you didn't know it was there, it was fairly disconcerting. The tunnel launch on this might capitalize on something similar.

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Well - this is certainly not what I was expecting. That being said - it does look like a fun ride. My concerns kind of align with Robbs regarding the capacity...but last year's Superman addition gave a lot of people the same concerns and it seems like it hasn't been an issue there (I know - it is a much smaller park, but we can only wait to see.) For what it's worth - congratulations to SFMM and its fans for another addition to their lineup. SOMEDAY I plan on actually making it out there

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This looks really fun. The Vertical Loop is nothing special though (rode one, rode them all). All those banked turns look fantastic , lot's of headchoppers, and the Dive Loop is nothing short of sexy. That looks like a really good transition, especially when darting right into a black hole (tunnel). I hope MM has some good effects in the tunnel, fog seems a bit bland, but will only add to the experience. The backwards launch dosen't seem like much of a thrill (S:TEFK) , however the back seat may tell a different story .That top hat seems to have that potential "AIR-TIME" everyone's been complaining about. The ride seems to end abrouptly though. Very good ride nonetheless.

 

PS.

It now seems as if MM is just building for bragging rights now......AND that video was full of False Advertising. It's just the worlds tallest vertical loop...

PPS. "YOLO!"

 

My "potential" favorite new 2013 coaster list so far...

 

1. GateKeeper

2. Outlaw Run

3. Iron Rattler

4. Gold Striker

5. Full Throttle....they could of done so much more with it. Pocky 2.

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