DJeXeL Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 ^I know. Adults can still enjoy said attractions however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clinksalot Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Even including DCA the highest height requirement (since Maliboomer is gone) is 48" for Screamin'. Â It's sad to think that rides like Goliath, Apocalypse, Screamin' ... even X2 have the same height requirement as Gold Rusher. But that has to do more with the restraint system than the actual ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 But that has to do more with the restraint system than the actual ride. Â Exactly. Jaguar's (KBF) height requirement used to be 42" but because of the lap bar design Cedar Fair bumped it up to 48" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 But that has to do more with the restraint system than the actual ride. Â Exactly. Jaguar's (KBF) height requirement used to be 42" but because of the lap bar design Cedar Fair bumped it up to 48" It wasn't due to the lap bar design, it was just because of Cedar Fair. At the same time they raised the height restriction, they ADDED seat belts! They raised several height restrictions throughout the park during this time. Almost every 42" ride they had at the time became 48" and I believe Bigfoot Rapids went from 36" to 42" Â The same ride (although not exact layout) still operates with the same 42" height restriction at Mall of America. Â --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Makes the attorneys happy. I hate those damn seat belts! Checking the train at Jag and Zoom with those seat belts is a nightmare. Buckling all 28 seat belts @ Zoom all by your lonesome is NOT fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zingoman Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I'm not so sure height restrictions do anyone any good on Jaguar or Orange Streak with the lap bar design. Anyone else get a kick out of the fact that a single rider can easily slide out of their seat on top of the lapbar beside them? Â Interesting thing about Cedar Fair is from while working at Cedar Point, I was told by very reliable sources that their seatbelt addiction doesn't do anything for their insurance rates (as many people who work there theorize). It is part of their "commitment to safety". I call it a commitment to overkill in some cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayTheGForceBeWithYou Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 But that has to do more with the restraint system than the actual ride.  Exactly. Jaguar's (KBF) height requirement used to be 42" but because of the lap bar design Cedar Fair bumped it up to 48" It wasn't due to the lap bar design, it was just because of Cedar Fair. At the same time they raised the height restriction, they ADDED seat belts! They raised several height restrictions throughout the park during this time. Almost every 42" ride they had at the time became 48" and I believe Bigfoot Rapids went from 36" to 42"  The same ride (although not exact layout) still operates with the same 42" height restriction at Mall of America.  --Robb  I remember when the height requirement was 42", because I'd ride Jaguar end on end because I couldn't ride Montezooma, Boomerang, etc. because I hadn't gotten to 48". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Jaguar is a great "beginner" coaster for kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterGuy06 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Interesting thing about Cedar Fair is from while working at Cedar Point, I was told by very reliable sources that their seatbelt addiction doesn't do anything for their insurance rates (as many people who work there theorize). It is part of their "commitment to safety". I call it a commitment to overkill in some cases. Â And what I don't get is they went in and added them to basically all Arrow trains in the company, but Iron Dragon does not have them. This allowed them to still operate it with three trains with almost no stacking when I was there in May, but it seems like such a double standard to say they are necessary on another ride in the same park that has the SAME restraints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signaltwo Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 ^They probably just say that to keep the GP off them, I don't know how many times I was asked working at Six Flags if the restraint on the coaster was the only thing keeping them in. The ride has four (two of which that are in plain view to the guests) restraint mechanisms. Â Interesting thing about Cedar Fair is from while working at Cedar Point, I was told by very reliable sources that their seatbelt addiction doesn't do anything for their insurance rates (as many people who work there theorize). It is part of their "commitment to safety". I call it a commitment to overkill in some cases. Â Or commitment to paranoia maybe. If only most GP knew how to buckle their own seatbelts I'm sure the ride crew could fly through checking the train and just give a quick tug on the end of the belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Jaguar is a great "beginner" coaster for kids So was Revolution before the OTSRs. It had a 42" height requirement and I was able to take my then six-year-old nephew for his first ride on it. *SIGH* Those were the days. Â Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I hate Revolution with a passion! Probably because of the OTSRs and the headbanging that's included. When were those added by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 ^ In 1990, they installed these weird seats that had you feeling like you were sitting in a bucket, but still only had lap bars. Â In 1991, they installed shoulder belts that were pretty much like the ones in your car. Â In 1992, the same year that Flashback arrived, the current OTSRs were added. Â Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatdaddy Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Anyone else get a kick out of the fact that a single rider can easily slide out of their seat on top of the lapbar beside them? Â Yeah, that's why the height restrictions and OTSR's, cause people get a kick outta how they can slide outta the restraint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Jaguar is a great "beginner" coaster for kids It is...it's just too bad it doesn't have a height restriction that allows for it to be a beginner coaster. Think about it, but the time a kid is tall enough to ride Jaguar, he's probably have been on Big Thunder, Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, Matterhorn, and Tower of Terror "eight inches" ago. (2+ years before.) Â So when they are 48", and they can ride Montezooma, Boomerang, Ghostrider, and basically everything else in the park EXCEPT for Bullet and Xcelerator, Jaguar doens't look so appealing anymore. Â I have the same issue with Gold Rusher at SFMM. That ride should be 42". It's the perfect family coaster. But by the time you're tall enough to ride Gold Rusher, you've got X2, Terminator, Revolution, Goliath, Colossus, Superman, and now Green Lantern you can ride. Most people just ride Gold Rusher because the line is short, not because they find it very thrilling or fun any more. But to a 42" kid, that would be a BIG RIDE! Â I mean, really, how do you explain to a 42" kid that they can ride Tower of Terror, but they can't ride Gold Rusher or Jaguar ... for at least ANOTHER TWO YEARS!!! Â Oh well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) ^ Haha yea all true. I have a 4 year old that I'm going to have to explain this to soon.........I'm dreading the day. My daughter looooooves Camp Snoopy @ KBf so I know she's going to be into bigger rides as soon as she possibly can. I still don't understand how a child can have all their teeth knocked out of their head on Ghostrider but can't ride Silver Bullet. I hated those complaints as it was hard to explain that to a guest with a 50" tall child. Edited February 4, 2011 by DJeXeL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ728 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 ^ haha yea all true. I have a 4 year old that I'm going to have to explain this to soon.........I'm dreading the day. My daughter looooooves Camp Snoopy @ KBf so I know she's going to be into bigger rides as soon as she possibly can. I still don't understandnhow a child can have all their teeth knocked out of their head on Ghostrider but can't ride Silver Bullet. I hated those complaints as it was hard to explain that to a guest with a 50" tall child. Aren't all B&M's standard with a 54 inch height mark? I could be wrong on the hypers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I've operated Silver Bullet so well aware of the height requirement I'm just comparing how smooth the B&Ms are compared to Ghostrider. Also yes, some of the hypers have a 52" height requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Do any of Six Flags' mine trains in other parks have lower height limits than Gold Rusher? Â Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signaltwo Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Do any of Six Flags' mine trains in other parks have lower height limits than Gold Rusher? Eric  Yes, SFGadv's Runaway Mine Train has a 44" height limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunfire Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yeah, I just don't understand why the height requirement for Gold Rusher is 48". I mean, Big Thunder's requirement is 40", and I think BTMRR is a bigger and faster ride. Â Not only that, but the first time I rode Gold Rusher was, like Robb said, because the line was short. I got on the ride and just before dispatch, one of the ride ops noticed a girl under 48". So they got her out and told her parent that she was too short. And of course, the dad got into an argument with them for over 5 minutes, completely halting the dispatch because he refused to leave the platform. All because the girl was around 44". By the time I exited the ride, the queue was nearly full! Â Seriously though, does the restraint system on Gold Rusher actually warrant a 48" height requirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Do any of Six Flags' mine trains in other parks have lower height limits than Gold Rusher? Eric Yes, the SFOG, SFOT, SFSL, Great Escape, and SFFT Arrow mine trains are all 42". SFGadv is 44" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 ^ That's very strange if they all have the same lap bar system. Â Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayTheGForceBeWithYou Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 ^Hey, you're at a park whose future Roller Skater may have a height requirement of 42". Haven't you come to expect that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 The park announced there will be a 36" height requirement for Road Runner Express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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