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Best First Drop on a Wooden Coaster? Which one do you think?


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I had a back seat ride on Phoenix once and while the airtime was not as intense as on other parts of the ride it still launched me out of my seat and onto my seat divider! It hurt but was insane in its own right!

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I've only been on 7 wooden roller coasters but the best first drop would be Balder at Liseburg, followed by the Gwazi drops at Busch Gardens Africa, then Cyclone at SFoG.

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^What about T Express?

I don't understand why everyone says El Toro has the best, undisputed first drop when T Express's is steeper, although granted it is 20 feet *gasp* shorter.

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Well one degree would be insignificant...if not for all the other differences that influence the effectiveness of the drop. Note that:

 

-T Express achieves a steeper slope over less distance and what seems like a higher starting speed (than that of El Toro in its current state). Because the shaping is still similar, T Express' drop is likely more intense with stronger and/or a quicker onset of strong negatives.

 

-The transition between negatives and positives is noticeably smaller on T Express than El Toro. That fact also adds to the intensity by decreasing the time between extremes. Consider that the most significant difference between say Millennium Force's S transition between the second and third overbanks, and Maverick's S transition between the first and second turns on the ride is the time of rotation. Now, apply that same concept to the transitions on the drops to see why that difference can be so important. It's not a huge change, as El Toro's transition there is already relatively small, but it's definitely visible in back row POVs.

 

Determining which drop is better is really a matter of personal preference, as some people would prefer an extra 20' or other differences and intangibles in El Toro's drop over the facts I presented. However, based on what I said, I think one can tell why either first drop might be preferred.

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Nope, but you can get a lot of information from videos and pictures, which is just what I did.

 

This is something I don't understand, how people can say something about a ride they have never been on. Pictures and video's don't do justice to many coasters. You cannot assume something like that.

Sure, you can predict what the coaster would feel like, but until you actually ride it, you can't ever really know.

 

I'm not saying you where doing this, I've just seen it in this topic.

 

--James

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Whatever, I'm not going to get into that argument, especially since I think you only posted based on the one quote, and not what I actually said before. What I wrote are my thoughts based on my personal knowledge and experience. Whether you accept them or not is your business, not mine.

 

I will say, please note that everything I said in the post in question is a fact as opposed to an opinion, and whether you deem it correct or incorrect is another issue which is open to debate if you'd like. I didn't say which drop I preferred, as they are pretty similar, both has its advantages, and I've only ridden one of the two. I was just stating reasons why one might be considered better than another.

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I'm not saying you where doing this, I've just seen it in this topic.

 

Sorry if I offended you. I was sure to say in my above post that I wasn't referring to you, but others who have made their decision from video's and pictures.

 

--James

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I don't remember who it was that posted something about the Boss at SFSTL, but I am glad it made the list. Flying through coaster structure and then hitting an unexpected drop with a head chopper => pretty awesome first drop.

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^I'll take the credit for that. But yes it really is a great drop...that second dip farther down into the structure took me by surprise on my first ride.

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Let's see, admitting that I haven't been on more than 5 wooden coasters, I'll have to say that Terminator's drop in the back at night pwns. No other drop on a woodie has beaten it for me yet.

---Brent

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