BotanicalStig
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The ride needed some sprucing up. I hope the change will be good. I'm not always terribly impressed with Disney's recent attractions... But I'm sure they will do a good job.
Really sad to see it go. This ride meant a lot to me when I was little. Love the theming and music, brings me back to those 2 hour queues in the summer with my family (many of which have since passed). So many great memories.
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6 hours ago, Doppel Looping said:
Do they make aquatrax that tall?
Hopefully they're finally going to use all of those aquatraxx parts for maverick that they forgot to install.
Aquatraxx is the first idea in this thread that makes losing TTD OK.
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Such an iconic station to me
I remember my first ride on TTD. My best friend I (back in my high school days) went to cedar point together back in 07. We risked the ride going down (again) to sit in the front row and do it right. What a rush that was. Only got 3 or 4 rides on that trip.
Only been back twice since then, really wish I could get on it again.
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10 hours ago, CaptainUnknown said:
They'd charge $300 for a dragster slice today. In a few years with inflation, it'd only go up.
Meh. $250 or $300 maybe. I'll still buy one.
Really not much for something if it has great sentimental value to you. I love my WT piece.
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I think if CP wanted to convert the ride to LSM (and it could be done) - they would do it. Regardless of any potential infrastructure challenges.
I doubt they're converting it to an LSM launch, but maybe the technology has evolved to a point where they could do that.
Regardless, wasn't the accident related to a brake fin? Wouldn't it make more sense to convert the brake system? Just leave the sort-of-reliable launch system in place?
In order to reopen TTD as is (as was) would mean to fix the ride so that the brake fin system couldn't fail again. My guess is that they couldn't do that, or didn't want to do that. Hence TTD being converted into Top Thrill Observation Tower.
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Hoping for something minor (retheme, repaint). But I don't think they'd say it's "retired as you know it." Would they bait everyone like that for a paint job? Changing the brake system?
Kind of half expecting some sad use of the structure with no more launch coaster... We'll see.
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I find this upsetting.
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The redurb doesn't sound bad but those restraints look awful. Even without the OTSR I'd take the original trains any day.... Bummer.
I'm sure it was either this or full removal so the real question is... Was this a win?
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11 hours ago, southpuddle said:
I really don’t see why Cedar Point hasn’t capitalized on upping the price of FL+ on days they know it’s going to be bats*** insane. Charge $400 for it. Meet the demand. I’d be really irritated if I spent $150 on FL+ and still waited an hour for SV.
I haven't been to CP in quite some time but I never had more than ~15 minutes with a fl+. If times have gotten that bad it's time to price people out. We paid for the quick-pass-thing at Universal FL a few years back and were absolutely pissed by the wait times. Some of the queues were split evenly at an hour wait each.. Totally not acceptable when you're paying extra for it.
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Never got to visit this park, even though I always wanted to. I grew up in Chicago, and I was always intrigued by the sister park in California. Hope they slice up rail pieces off the demon, I'd love to own a part of it.
Carowinds gets dibs on the RMC.
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17 hours ago, bert425 said:
^ this is a silly comment.
Japan's boarders are open to international travelers *right now*. . all you have to do is follow the procedures and you would be welcome.
Perhaps you are thinking of China? (and no, not all Asian Countries are the same)China? Dude, no...
Japan has been closed off due to the pandemic. Foreign residents (who live there permanently) haven't even been allowed in if they leave (until very recently). It was just a joke, but a very real situation.
I say this as someone who really loves the country and has been slowly saving up for a trip- years before the pandemic... Unfortunately
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2027? Maybe Japan can get their borders open to general tourism by then. Not holding my breath
Cant wait for more info!
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It's surprising to me that anyone could have the ability to adjust the restraint sensor system, other than the manufacturer. I wonder if the manufacturer signed off on that.
I hope not, but I still have no clue how that could happen. Could have been some physical tampering? Modifying safety systems like this doesn't sound legit. I guess we'll see when more info comes out. Hopefully those responsible will be held accountable.
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^ The people saying "yeah well he's fat so he's just going to die anyway!" or "yeah well fat people are snowflakes, if the park rejected him he'd just cry about it!"
Are insane. Kind of like your bullies in childhood, if you don't feel good about yourself, you have to find a way to put that on someone else. Some people just don't grow up, unfortunately.
Really sad to see so much of this as a response to a teenagers death. I feel so bad for him, his friends and family. You can't bring him back. Think about what the people who were on that ride him are going through right now. You think they need stupid opinions about society being snowflakes and having heart disease? Is that how you'd feel if your child, brother, or friend died in a tragic accident?
This world we live in right now is just so sad. I'm holding back a lot of words towards people in this thread, maybe you guys should try doing the same before you say something stupid.
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6 hours ago, prozach626 said:
I find it ironic that a morbidly obese person is complaining about circumstances being deadly, as if she hasn't looked at the deadly health consequences of her actions. The newest movement is referring to thin/fit/healthy people as entitled or privileged.
#1 leading cause of death in America: Heart Disease. Talk about "deadly." Although I'm sure it's probably "someone else's fault."
If the ride couldn't be designed to keep him safe, it should have been designed to keep him OFF. This is such a basic safety concept. Unfortunately we've seen this issue time and time again. Reputable manufacturers have put in the effort to fix mistakes and keep people safe. You can't just put up a sign with a max weight limit and expect employees to stay on top of it. Automated systems need to do the work. Safety is the first priority when it comes to designing rides, it can NOT be an afterthought. Ride engineers need to be extremely careful if they don't want a death on their hands. It doesn't sound like they put in the work to make these towers fool proof.
I'm not morbidly obese, I just have empathy.
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Unless we find out that the restraint check system told them that the rider wasn't secure, I don't think we can say it was the operators fault.
I would like to think that people would know that he didn't look safe, but come on.
This is so sad. A belt between his legs could have saved him. It wouldn't have been fun, but it should have been there.
Honestly, the safety systems and engineering behind these restraints just seems sloppy. I know that other manufacturers have made mistakes, but we need to learn from them. I don't mean this to be rude, but they need to consider the safety of larger passengers. Either make sure they're safe, or make sure the ride won't let them on.
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Part of hurler was retracked, and it is more *smooth* now. It isn't more fun, though. It's a really boring layout, it could be helped if it had some airtime.... But those hills just don't do it.
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Meh. Especially on a low intensity ride like this, most of the fun is gone if you can't communicate with your friends. Sitting silently between a group of strangers is much less fun. Just try to take the whole train, nobody is going to care.
On second thought. Just assess the situation. Does it feel appropriate to take up the whole train? How will people judge you? Do you want to sit in your friends lap. What will happen if you ask to sit in your friends lap? Can you still be friends, or is this a road you can't go back on? Think this over very carefully, it could change your friendship forever.
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Glad this part of the park is finally getting love. Avalanche is one of the best rides in the park (definitely the best family ride). Thrilled to see that they are working on it rather than ripping it out.
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Your job is to check restraints. You half-ass check and don't see that someone isn't secure. The rides safety system says something is wrong.
What would you do, figure out what you did wrong, or send it? I think ignoring the safety warnings and sending someone to their death is "acting significantly different than most people would under similar circumstances."
That's all I'm trying to say. You can tell me I "don't understand" all you want, but that doesn't mean this makes sense.
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"Failure to ensure proper utilization of the passenger restraint system or seatbelts, and
A lack of understanding and resolution of the alarm conditions on the control panel."
I just don't understand. If not checking a child's restraint, and ignoring safety alarms do not qualify as criminal negligence. What the heck does? How do they describe, legally, what happened here? Just a "Whoopsie"? If they can't charge the kid operating the ride, why not the park? Aren't they responsible for their employees actions? Is it not negligence to hire the dummy who ignored safety protocols?
Everytime I come back here I get more irritated by it.
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The mega-malls heydey ended 30 years ago. From what I've seen, the indoor park looks really cool, and I'd love to visit (sans-covid). Probably should have just built a big(er) indoor theme park, without the vacant store fronts.
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I can't see how there could be any doubt if that old report was correct. There is no way this ride doesn't have cameras recording the loading process. Regardless of if the operator tugged the belt and saw it was locked... If it wasn't *on* they didn't check it properly.
That report must have been wrong. She must have met all ride requirements, and been properly restrained. Making this fault of the restraint system/manufacturer, or whoever sets the safety requirements.
That, or this was thrown out when it shouldn't have been.
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I had to go back to the prior report. Sounded like she wasn't fastened correctly, or at all.
I think speculation was that she was sitting on top of the belt (IE the ride was sent empty, and she hopped on the belt, which would have been locked in). If this were the case, the op would have checked the belt and saw it was clipped in (but not on). Isn't this still negligent? It may not have been on *purpose*.... But isn't that... Negligent?
I'm so confused by this. Of course nothing will bring her back, but there has to be an explanation as to what happened.
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Carowinds Discussion Thread
in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
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Love how someone saw this and thought "quick! Get a video!"
Glad someone told the park before something bad happened.
Amazing that the track held up to that kind of stress WITHOUT SUPPORT. B&M has a great reputation for a reason, they know they're doing.