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  1. By my count, almost half of Mitch's top 50 have an inversion of some sort. I think I need another explanation about why we need to rank looping coasters separately. The OP's logic is losing me.


    He referenced a post I wrote where I pointed out that the Golden Ticket Awards' top ten steel coasters list was loopless for the first time (ever?). I know all about the GTA's reputation and I prefer Mitch's poll. I was just noting the lack of loopers when the results came out last year.

  2. Full disclosure: 3 of my top 10 are loopers are 6, 7, & 8. So, I'm likely a bit biased from the jump.


    Personally, I find it difficult to compare loopers and non-loopers when I compile my top ten lists. But, on the other hand, I can see everyone's point about there being too many lists. I don't think three lists would be too many, but then again I really like data, critiques, reviews, and top lists. It is worth noting that Mitch could just have the one list, but instead he decided to separate wood and steel.


    And I don't agree at all that having loopers and non-loopers opens the door up for a list for every type. I don't have the time, but I'd bet if someone went to RCDB or did some number cruching, they would find that the world's coasters are something like: 10% wood, 20% steel looping, and 70% steel non looping. These are just guesses.


    Those three categories are large enough percentages of the overall coaster population to merit three lists. Again, I love polls, rankings, lists, etc. I understand that the appetite for these things is pretty varied. I can see both sides and I'm trying to see this from other enthusiasts and the gp's point of view, not just mine.


    Basically, if there's a wide-reaching preference shift it doesn't quite seem fair (to me) that loopers get left out. Maybe this is just payback for all those years of OTSR headbanging.

  3. I thought the coaster car itself was animated, but as I looked at it in it's full size (1500 x 1000) the hood still looks a bit too shiny, but the seats look very detailed. Anyway, that was my 2 cents. Turns out that the picture is real. I got official word from the park (or the PR guy supporting the park):


    The picture is definitely real and is not an animated rendering or a composite.


    He also confirmed that it's being built by Maurer Sohne as RCDB has it listed, he said that he'd try to get additional stats as well.

  4. Freestyle Music Park's President described the U.S. as a saturated market when it comes to theme parks. That was just his opinion, but that may be the way a lot of companies feel. Not to mention the bankruptcy issues other have pointed out. If you're in the Aurora Ohio part of the country, you're best bet for a new park is that West Virginia Wild Escape Park if it ever gets going. It's supposed to be built in Northern WV, in Wheeling I think.

  5. Just yesterday I was telling some commenters no way KD would build a Giga. And I was defending my 'low' 9 out of 10review for MF b/c I didn't experience any airtime. Funny how 24 hours can change things.


    I was hoping for an Intamin Mega Lite for KD, but I should have known that in America bigger = better. So an airtime packed mega lite might not have been appealing enough. I just hope it has airtime and a more interesting layout than MF's. This is pretty shocking news to me.


    And lastly I hope CF leaves some washers laying around down here at Carowinds too!

  6. Rampage is definitely worth the trip out there. I decided to give the park a try after a visit to SF Over Georgia mainly based on some good Rampage reviews. I was glad that I did. I can't speak too much for the rest of the park as I just rode the coasters, but Rampage is currently in my top 10 woodies. I would think at worst it'd be in most people's top 15 wooden coasters if it still rides like it did last year. Of course that depends on your preferences.


    Great ride! Surprisingly smooth and enjoyable.

  7. ^^^ I wouldn't say that HRRR was supposed to be a B&M coaster.


    When I interviewed the Creative Director Louis Alfieri he said that they went with Maurer Sohne because of the X-Car. It allows them to do some of those one of a kind inversions that he said wouldn't be possible with a longer B&M train. He gave props to B&M mentioning that of course the company has several and he worked on Hollywood Dream, but they set out to do some new maneuvers that hadn't been done before and the X-Car proved the most capable.

  8. I forgot to post a link to the full interview:



    There's a little more about why they chose Maurer and the on-ride music videos. I wish I could have gotten a tour of the station. Obviously it was a construction zone, but I was able to get into Maximum RPM last year while they were working on it.

  9. I stopped by Wild Adventures on the way back from the Manta media day. It was a decent little park. Cheetah has a cool layout, I just wish it was a bit smoother. Unforunately, they weren't running the wild mouse coaster when I was there (Friday). But I still got to ride the 5 other coasters that were operating. I also talked to their PR person. I tried to

    dig for any future plans/upcoming coasters. She wouldn't spill any details, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were was something new on the horizon in 2010/2011.

  10. I interviewed the creative director of HRRR last week. Here are a few interesting facts and features that he shared with me:


    --> It'll feature 30 songs from 5 genres. 3 legacy artists and 3 contemporary artists in each genre. Songs to be announced soon! You're right about those on-board touch screens you're noticing on the harnesses.

    --> A Day Ride and A Night Ride; The track will be eluminated and the LEDs of course will enhance the night ride.

    --> 5 cars on the track at the same time (I think he meant 5 trains with two cars, but I will confirm)

    --> A train leaves the station every 23 seconds!

    --> A people mover like station. The train never stops in the station to improve the loading process.

    --> Ride Capacity - Wouldn't give me exact numbers, but said hrrr will have the same ride capacity as the hulk


    There's more about why they chose Maurer and on the music videos and hrrr web site. He mentions over and over all of the firsts that HRRR will have. And you realize it really will be unique. I'll let you know when I've got the full interview up.

  11. Having dealt with PR way too much, i can tell you the press release is beyond worthless to the general public. They want stories that are easy to read in familiar styles. They don't want a story before it is sent out to be edited by a news agency.


    The press releases aren't for the potential visitors they're for the media outlets. That's why they're called 'press' releases. So the press can have a summary of the latest updates and write a story about them.


    The new commercial's pretty good, but I agree that they need to show more. I recently saw an ancient kings dominion commercial with Dick Van Dyke prancing around KD. There were multiple versions of that commercial. I'm sure FSMP is doing the same thing.


    Also, here's an online google ad NewsPlusNotes noticed:


  12. I have to dissagree DiSab. Considering the time crunch they're under their doing about as good as could be expected getting the message out. And they're definitely reaching out (with the free admission for the military) and trying promos more.


    Did anyone notice the 'twilight rate' announced in the recent press release:


    After opening weekend, Freestyle Music Park will operate a special schedule the weekdays of Tuesday, May 26 through Friday, June 5. On these select weekdays, the Park will be open from 4 p.m. to 10 p.m. and offer a special $24.95 ticket price for adult guests and $19.95 for children. The Park will be open normal operating hours for Saturdays and Sundays during this time period. In addition, residents of North and South Carolina will also be eligible for an additional $10 discount off an admission ticket.


    This sounds a lot like what many asked for as people are allegedly spending the days at the beach and might want to look for something to do in the evenings.


    I do agree with Jew though, that online tickets should be a no-brainer.

  13. Maybe I'm making a leap of faith here, but there were 5 pre-shows rooms. Is it possible that each pre-show will be a different decade/song?


    You may be on to something larrygator. Maybe you choose which room you enter and that determines which soundtrack is playing when you ride. That's actually a much better use of the station/queue system than 5 pre-show rooms just showing the same video on an endless cycle a few minutes a part from each other.

  14. Fascinating conversation, I just caught up with the whole thread... a couple comments:


    - The $40 price tag will only work if the deals that they work out with the resorts are super cheap, and if they can flood locals with coupons for the area. As has been pointed out, a $40 price tag won't get most vacationers to change their mind about their plans, and let's face it -- no one going to Myrtle Beach currently with the exception of the people on this board is going to visit FMP. In fact, most of those vacationers have not even heard of it (too bad Hard Rock didn't stick, as they have heard of that).


    So the price tag has to be so ridiculously good that a family will skip their already made plans to instead go to this park. And without an established brand name, it's going to be really tough to pull them in. Think about it: if someone goes to Tampa and sees Busch Gardens or LA and sees Disneyland, they have probably heard the brand name. But, if you are a Myrtle Beach visitor and hear about this "Freestyle Music Park", price is the *only* way to entice you to go, and unless it is ridiculously cheap I don't see that working with non-locals.


    So far, as far as I can tell the new management has not fixed the "too little to do" problem, and has created two new problems to overcome. I can't see this going too well.


    I interviewed the park's President and asked him about some of the same issues you've mentioned. I asked him specifically about how they hope to get those vacationers to change their plans and go to FMP. His answer was that he was going to communicate the value that they provide to guests because of the "tremendous amount of things to do."


    He also stated that they are definitely going to use the hotels, resorts, etc. to sell tickets and seemed surprised that the previous management did not do that. I don't think the brand name is such a huge deal if they really can communicate every which way possible that there's a lot to do. Making good on that promise is another issue.


    I also asked about the locals and he said that he was going to work with numerous local groups, but didn't get anymore specific.


    Here's the part of the interview where he talks about getting people into the park:



    Lastly, can someone explain what the park should reasonably be expected to have in it to justify the admission price? I've heard about a thousand times that there wasn't enough to do. I can see that for $50, but for $40 what does the park need to have for there to be "enough" for the average park guest. I'll be honest and admit that I don't generally sample all that parks have to offer so I'm really asking. Is it about 6 to 8 flat rides, 3 water rides, 5 'adult coasters', x number of shows etc? Is it fair to say it should have the ride lineup of a major theme park like SFOGA or Carowinds because it's charging in the same range?

  15. You're right. It's not at a park it's at the race track. Robb's just saying it's what the client wanted. Obviously S&S has to cater to their clients no matter what's actually possible.


    Here's the video again so you don't have to go to S&S' site:



    As others have said, it's definitely shorter than I'd like, but the launch will likely become legendary. At least until another coaster passes it. Anybody have an idea where the ceiling is? We've got to be approaching the g-force limits soon right?

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