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  1. 14 minutes ago, dankeykang said:

    It’s been raining here all afternoon, but pretty much everything is still open. Only coaster that hasn’t operated today is Gemini. 

    The park tends to do fine as long as it's not any lightning forecasted. With a poncho and some warm clothes I'm sure today was absolutely amazing for those that risked it. We did the same thing at Kings Island 2 years ago during a rainy day/night. Did everything we wanted 20 times over and it's honestly one of my favorite days I've had at any park. Doing the indoor haunts as the only people walking through, the night ride marathons, we stayed until closing and I would take it over a mob of people. Going through a haunt full of actors as the only people in it is always ten times more terrifying than the typical conga lines.


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  2. On 10/20/2021 at 3:28 AM, xVicesAndVirtues said:

    I don't know if it was a fluke or if I had too many of the aforementioned beers prozach626 mentioned that the park sells on my last visit, but I remember Eagle hauling ass, being really awesome/smooth and having great airtime in the back car. This was honestly one of the reasons I was hoping to add this park to our trip.

    I was honestly wondering the same thing. I made my first trip to the park over the summer and it was a complete sleeper for us. We rode it just as it got dark and it was honestly an easy top 10 wooden coaster for me. Reminded me of the Phoenix which I thought I was insane to compare it too. It was so much better than I thought and I wasn't even really aware the park had such a good wooden coaster. I honestly thought the only stand out ride was going to be Mr Freeze (which was also a top 10 for us) but wow we loved Eagle. This was after riding The Voyage earlier in the day so our threshold was pretty high all things considered.

  3. 4 hours ago, boldikus said:

    So word on the street is that there is a giant wooden fence all around SideWinder, and also that the park has started to repaint SDL a nice bright shade of white.

    SDL loop is entirely white now, I've been watching it progress for a few weeks now. They were first pressure washing the paint off then started painting it white.

    They've also started painting Sidewinder and a few of the slides. Seems like they did a pretty large contract with a local company that's redoing a fair amount of the rides/slides. The company posted up about doing the refurbishment work on a few local pages around here. It's a neat process and it appears we're going to see some fresh coats and color changes for next year.

    Cocoa Cruiser was also painted the inverse of Candimonium colors instead of the Skyrush colors, fits in a lot nicer with the theme and park.

  4. It's a shame you didn't get on Alpengeist, it's the most intense B&M invert I've ever been on, granted it's a first half coaster more than a second half in terms of forces, but it's very intense. I enjoy Afterburn, Montu and Banshee more overall, but only by a small margin. Alpengeist really is a monster in terms of Inverts and I'd consider it a world class coaster. If you make it back to the park, I'd highly recommend making it a point to ride it, as it is one of the "stand out" coasters in terms of intensity and I know you said you felt BGW lacked that. The only reason I rank those other ones higher is honestly Alpengeist has a few rough spots it's formed over the years, but it's undeniably an amazing coaster still.

  5. So I don't really think this is a cut and dry answer, some parks you'd probably be fine leaving them alone at while others I wouldn't risk it. So here's some tips I'd recommend based on family trips we've done in years past:

    1. Research the park you're going to, honestly parks like Dollywood, Holiday World, Cedar Point are probably safe bets for younger ones to go alone and have more freedom. Some other parks such as Six Flags America, Boardwalk parks, Fun Spots, etc aren't necessarily unsafe, but the crowds and employees aren't as attentive as other parks.

    2. We live in the 21st century and have cell phones, so that makes planning a lot easier. With that said, we used to have meeting spots before cell phones and a general area/time we'd meet back up at. I even do this with my significant other sometimes because when we're at parks we don't really like to have two phones on us since we only keep the one for my medical device. We always knew as kids to meet back where we said we would and I recall around 11 was when I started to get some more freedom at the safer parks to go on my own.

    3. You know your kids better than any of us. Some kids are more mature than others to make responsible adult decisions. First, make sure they want to go on their own, if they're worried, it's easy for kids to panic and get scared. It happens, but this will depend on the maturity level that really only you can decide with your child.

    4. Cell phones again make things easy now a days for planning in most cases. Go over the plan B though, explain to your kids the basics of safety. I learned this really young and it stuck with me and actually became more useful of situational awareness as an adult. Very, very important things for every kid to know: Never go with a stranger. If lost, only ask help from employees, if you REALLY can't find an employee with a nametag ask a group that appears to be a family, avoid people alone/strangers alone. Always trust your gut! If someone gives you a bad feeling it's probably for a reason. Locate guest services and lost kid locations in parks, same with first aids. These are always the safest locations to go if you become lost. 

    I know some other posters have said "not anymore in todays age" and such, I don't actually agree with that statement. We're just as much at risk as we were years ago, we didn't get an influx of bad people in the last 20 years that suddenly decided to be bad people out of the blue. Just be smart and aware, you're the parent and as long as you give enough freedom while also being safe about it, it's a really good environment to let your kids grow. I know the days of running around amusement parks on my own at Cedar Point and Disney as a kid really helped me establish an independence I didn't really know I was gaining at the time. Now 20 years later those life lessons taught me a lot, I got lost once and it was at a park I was unfamiliar with when I was 12. With the planning I was taught from my parents I was able to find them within 30 minutes which was a relief for them and myself! It also taught me to be a bit more aware of my surroundings. 

    Funnily enough, the only time I can distinctly remember ever feeling "stranger danger" was at the Hershey Hotel. I was actually 21 and looking at some bears around the gift shop table and this old man came up to me asking me about teddy bears. I was at the hotel on business with my first company and they were filming some shots for a commercial we were doing. I was in complete shock what was happening and he was trying to buy me said bear... I looked very young for my age back then, to the point that also at Hershey I got asked if I needed a kids menu on my 21st birthday with those same coworkers... they got a kick out of those situations, but I knew it was wrong and when the man realized I knew what he was doing he disappeared as quick as he appeared. So I don't want to say it's "never" happened, but I can say all those lessons from being younger paid off in that situation as well. In my opinion it's good to let your kids experience the world in as controlled of environment as you can, you won't always be there to offer that controlled environment, so learning young can really help later in life.

    I should also add that I normally went with my brother who was two years younger than me until I was about 12 or 13. I guess I didn't "go it alone" all the time, but by the time I was 14 I would take the buses at Disney World and such on my own. I knew to be responsible and my younger brother took a little longer to get to to that point. So again, it's not a one size fits all kind of thing.

  6. 6 hours ago, bert425 said:

    I can totally see them saying anyone under age of 16 MUST be accompanied by an adult (18+).

    no way will they go for 21+ restrictions. . but 18+ as the adult with younger?  yeah. . think for certain that's gonna happen.

    What I'm thinking is 18+ for yourself, 25+ if you're accompanying anyone under the age of 18. Similar to liquor laws here in PA, you can't drink unless someone is at least 25 at the table if someone is under the legal drinking age, holds the person a bit more responsible for the younger members of the party. The fact is, the people that cause these issues are between ages 15 and 20 years of age 90 percent of the time, there needs to be a system to prevent this. Many malls and entertainment centers have similar policies, I'd have to imagine since the park was forced to close early, they would be willing to take fairly drastic measures to keep the younger trouble makers away.

  7. 2 hours ago, BABA BOOEY said:

    Pure Tragedy. I won't go as far as the Youtuber Theme Park Crazy to call a Boycott, but to defend this park is OUTLAW. This was a human life loss. A 6 year old life who never had the chance to experience the sweetness of this world. It makes me sick and there is no room for defense. The ride alerted the "operators", what more could you ask for? Total human negligence from those running the ride.  

    To outlive your own child....

    For what it's worth, you can't waiver negligence away. Just as you can't sign your life away and such in the United States. There are limits to what you can sign someone to do in a contract of any kind. I don't think with what we know now that the park will fair well in the lawsuit. Another thing that doesn't cover negligence? Most insurance policies, so this could be a really bad situation for the park. I just can't really say what should happen with this one, it seems like a complete nightmare all around for everyone involved.

  8. 8 minutes ago, CedarFlags said:

    Oof... first King's Island over Memorial weekend, and now this.

    Six Flags America Closes Early After Large Fights


    Interesting they kicked out the entire park, but I guess I get it's better to be safe than sorry. This park needs a strict no one under 21 policy if not accompanied by an adult and needs security beefed up clearly. It's always been one of those parks that if the employees and management took issues like this seriously enough, it would be a different atmosphere. A great comparison is Kentucky Kingdom, another park that has had it's fair share of issues and growing pains, but with new management has shown that it can be a quality top tier park that still competes with two amazing parks within 2 hours, similar to SFA's setup.

  9. It's frustrating at how easily this could of been avoided. So many people hurt over this, the little girl is gone forever, the family is broken forever and honestly the ride ops and the park have this hanging over their heads too, with what's likely a young adult that made the mistake that now lives with this. It's just tragic, I can't think of any reason anyone would of thought this would happen. I've ridden these types of rides before and the ops were always very good at checking, I can't believe they allowed this to happen.

    It's hard to speculate anything will happen in terms of removal/operations, but since it was operator error I think it'll reopen honestly. Similar incidents happened at Alton Towers, SFGAdv and some other parks and when it's operator error rides tend to open up with stricter procedures. I just hope that if it does reopen, it opens up with an age restrict/height restriction that matches the ride a bit more. Clearly the current one allowed too young of riders on that didn't quite understand the safety risks of not using a seatbelt.

  10. I like this policy better, easier to bring in necessary supplies for medical reasons without making it such a big fuss as what Carowinds did. They should just age restrict these events to 12 and older and not allow infants. It'll make them seem "scarier" and will help with the idiots that bring their babies. I don't understand why a parent would bring a toddler/infant, just seems like an all around bad idea.

  11. 13 hours ago, anonymouscactus said:

    Unfortunately when I went a few weeks ago I didn't think it would be worth getting a hopper or staying an additional day at Studios just to be able to see the Bourne show (the price difference is ridiculous for one attraction, well, the Harry Potter train but I don't care about that, same with F&F) when I could go on all the other worthwhile things during HHN... but that didn't play out at all because I didn't even get to ride mummy and gringots or do anything else but the houses during HHN (we even did the after 10pm HHN Express for half price -- not a lot of people know about it) and I completely forgot it includes the rides too (not that I think they needed it) but we were REALLY hurting by 12:15 at a 1am close which was only exasperated by running to Velocicoaster at 6:35p from the farthest point at Studios since it just opened for the day.

    We had leftover houses on our Express because we didn't want to loop back and repeat the ones we waited in regular lines for, and I could barely, BARELY walk, but I did get in all 10 houses and Beetlejuice twice because my wife is obsessed with Beetlejuice and I skipped it the first time to ride Velocicoaster. All in all a good time but as I stated before I much prefer houses/haunts without conga lines as you get a better chance to soak it all in and get more interaction with the actors.

    It's not the lines themselves that bother me at HHN it's the fricken layout of the lines and the ridiculously long walks to GET to the lines. lol


    I always go to the rides right away at HHN, we walked right on Gringotts and Mummy while all the houses had 4 to 6 hour waits. We eventually worked our way through all of the houses strategically. It's best to skip until you find the reasonable waits at these events and circle back later, even when it's jam packed. You are right though, doing a full day/night at Universal can wear you out! It seems fine in theory and 12 hours go by of walking and your feet and legs say otherwise.

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  12. 1 hour ago, boldikus said:

    The majority of the comments are regarding diaper bags or complaints that people have young children and thus need to have bags. It's wild.

    My comments have been over medical bags. My supplies will not fit in the bag restrictions they set. You can disagree with me on this subject, but I cannot risk it without it. I let the park talk me into putting my bag into a locker and sure enough it went bad in line. Since then they’ve given me ADA passes which fixed that issue, but now this creates a whole different issue. 

    Granted my bag is just slightly larger than their rules, but it’s filled to the brim with medical supplies at that. My preferred way is to go with just money and that’s it, but my health condition doesn’t permit that anymore. With the no reentry rule, it’s made it virtually impossible to re supply. Which honestly has always given me anxiety at Kings Island and Carowinds. 

    As for kids and diaper bags I agree, they shouldn’t be at the park for the event. The only other valid concerns I’ve seen have been women’s care products, but I’m neither a women or know the work around on that one so I’m not touching it. 

  13. 10 minutes ago, coasterbill said:

    It's nice to see them offering some combo packages and discounts. Honestly, $149 for the 2 day combo is reasonable.

    Honestly this might make the couple hour drive worth it for us. It's been hard to justify stopping and seeing just the water park or just the dry park since they both look pretty good, just not good enough to make a weekend trip out for essentially $700 for both of us with hotels/tickets to both. This would actually get it to about $500 overall which is cheap enough that I feel like I'm not getting completely ripped off. I'd much rather use that extra money saved for Fast Pass which is now an option as well and also a reasonable price. Overall I think this is great news and enough of an incentive to get me out for a trip finally at least.

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  14. 5 hours ago, bert425 said:

    the moment they pulled out Kangaroo and Bayern Kurve ?  

    this park went from "must do again next time in Pennsylvania" to "eh . . been there, got to ride the unique rides and classics before they retired several of them (including the log flume).. no rush to go back"

    Would I like to ride Steel Curtain?  sure. . but not making a trip just for that.

    You're smart for that, because every year this park manages to take away something I love about It. I'm still a bit hostile on the Garfield's bad acid trip being remodeled, I mean sure I miss the other classics, but nothing ever has given me a "WTF" moment like that ride and it'll be forever missed. Steel Curtain is good, I'd even say REALLY good, but it's not enough of a pusher with all of it's issues to go to the park, you'll just be angry that you enjoyed it so much and realize you don't want to wait in a 3 hour line to do it again.

  15. 2 hours ago, tndank said:

    Short article on the release you must sign and how it may protect the park and leave the family with no recourse. 


    Interesting, makes sense for the alpine coaster and given the example in the video that's a pretty clear cut case of not being the parks liability or fault. This accident is a bit different, but it might/probably does cover the park. I'm curious if it'll cover the manufacturer though, which is a whole different issue I suppose.

    Overall, from what I've heard I don't blame the park based on what we know so far. I could kind of see the manufacturer to partially be blamed for not having higher requirements I suppose, even then it's hard to blame. I have a hard time blaming her or the family either, she was six and scared. No one went into this thinking she would wiggle out (if that's what happened) and she might not of even known what the ride did or was going to do. Reminds me of when I was that age and backing out of Tower of Terror because honestly I was worried about this exact thing back then. I could of definitely seen myself trying to get out at that age even if logically it wouldn't of made sense, I chose to wait by the exit though after backing out right before stepping in that elevator.

    This whole situation is tragic. I have a hard time saying anyone was negligent, sometimes accidents are just that, accidents. Hopefully they correct the height requirements on all models for this ride moving forward. That seems like the only concrete thing that should be done so far.

  16. 29 minutes ago, PKI Jizzman said:

    Welp, guess I'll be canceling my trip.

    "https://www.kennywood.com/ We regret to announce the Steel Curtain will be closed for maintenance for the remainder of the season. Our park team will be working closely with the ride’s manufacturer to ensure a roaring return next spring.



    Sorry the text is dark. Steel Curtain closed for the year. 

    This is probably the best news we've heard on the coaster in awhile. Hopefully this means fixing whatever kinks it has to get it to a somewhat normal operation. Whether that's retraining, second train, or a quicker lift, all together would result in amazing operations but even just one of those things would at least cut down 5 minutes on each cycle. :lolr:

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  17. 8 hours ago, tykunkel1031 said:

    We’ll be spending almost all day Sunday there. In total, it’ll be more than one full day of operating hours. Saturday is just like our preview evening haha. That’s why I was planning for possible FL+ on Sunday. 

    I’m leaning towards just going for it on the FL+ for Sunday though. This will probably be our last time getting to visit the park for a couple years because we’re moving soon. I definitely want the last trip to be a good one. 

    One more question - we both work at another theme park which gets us into CP for free. We were considering Breaker’s Express for a hotel just for the early entry. Do we need to have the tickets through the hotel to get in early for that? Also, do they run with FL+ during early entry?

    FL+ does not work for early entry. I would recommend using the early entry time for Raptor, Valravn (I believe this is early entry now), MF then Maverick. Steel Vengeance always gets mobbed in the morning anyways and you'll enjoy yourself more waiting until the afternoon. I recommend this course of rides if you have FL+ or not.

    FL+ is great, I even opted for the season long one. My only caveat is that I know it's not as necessary as some might think it is. So it comes down to budget, if you go to the park with a similar game plan as I mentioned, you'll be on all of those coasters by mid afternoon with or without it, with it you'll likely get through the park two or three times over though. Letting you finish out the day on Gemini, Magnum, Corkscrew, Iron Dragon and GateKeeper. Just know that it isn't necessary and even on the parks busiest of busy days, we've pulled off riding everything working our away around the crowds.

    Also, I recommend planning a late lunch if it's possible. You'll avoid waiting in lines if you're willing to wait until 3 to 4pm to eat, which is also the time most of the restaurants in breakers open. Since it'll be a Sunday though they might be closed for the week. The Melt is a good alternative if you're looking for a sit down meal.

  18. 27 minutes ago, Mike240SX said:

    @tykunkel1031How many hours of the evening?  If it's 6 or more, then I'd say yes it's worth it, and you should also get it for your full day on Sunday.

    I wouldn't bother buying it for Saturday evening, just try to do some of the coasters that typically don't have lines such as Magnum, Gemini, Gatekeeper, etc in the evening. Sunday won't sell out, so judge as the day goes in the morning.

    We went Friday on labor day weekend and the park was moderately busy. All the rides had longer times listed then they were (SV listed as 2 hours, but really  was only 45 minutes), the park wasn't dead, but many coasters were walk ons still such as Magnum, Gatekeeper, Wicket Twister at times (RIP), Raptor, Rougarou. Valravn probably had a 30 to 45 minute line, MF might of been the only coaster I remember having close to an hour wait. I would expect a Sunday to be similar, but this is the first weekend where everyone that typically comes during the week is limited to the weekend so who knows for sure.

    Saturday I believe is one of the 250 dollar FLP days which is probably overkill, I'm a huge advocate for FLP but it's honestly probably not needed, especially at that price.

  19. 34 minutes ago, PKI Jizzman said:

    And as we approach fooseball season, I am assuming it will be ever more popular than usual. 

    I'll be curious to see if they are worse than the Valravn or Cheetah Hunt or Falcon's Fury crews, haha. Those deserve as special place in theme park hell this year.

    Well my experience this year at Valravn and Cheetah Hunt were lightning fast compared to Steel Curtain. I do remember those two coasters being a bit slow this year, but nothing like how horrible Steel Curtain is. Even SFA wait times and operations were better every single time we've went, even with 1 train operations on Superman with very similar conditions as I described with Steel Curtain it was still quicker.

    I do want to emphasize this is only for Steel Curtain, I can't think of any other ride in the park that has bad operations. Everything else is lightening fast and particularly the Phantom's Revenge crew is amazing. I highly recommend marathoning that one at night if you have the opportunity. 

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  20. 4 minutes ago, PKI Jizzman said:

    Visiting for the first time in 7 years next month. Looks like there's only 2 options for their Fast Pass: 

    $130 VIP 

    $59 skip the line on the coasters once each. 

    For a Saturday in October and Steel Curtain only one train is the VIP pretty much the only way to get multiple rides on it? I'm assuming it's gonna be slammed on a fall Saturday. 

    Steel Curtain has the absolute slowest operations I've experienced on any coaster ever. The staff is slow, the one train operations are slow. I don't understand it at all since other coasters in the park are perfectly fine, it's like they put the worst employees on the most popular coaster and said "hey we don't need both trains, what's an extra 3 minutes per dispatch on top of the 15".

    So while you could get a few rides on it, I would plan to buy the VIP pass if you want re rides. I pretty much skip the coaster every time we go unless we have a pass for it. Even the one time the ride had a small wait outside of the station, the wait for that was 45 minutes to an hour for essentially 5 to 6 trains worth of people and that was with two train operation.

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  21. On 8/31/2021 at 10:36 PM, octoroach said:

    anyone know if I buy the platinum pass at sesame place instead of a normal BGW platinum membership if their 50% discount on magic queue at sesame also gets 50% off quick queue at bgw and bgt?

    So my best answer is, maybe. Busch parks typically do give right around 50% off of quick queue with the platinum passes. My suggestion is to call the parks phone and buy through there, they typically have the cheapest options for tickets and bring a friend tickets. The online purchasing and site is sometimes very inconsistent and/or broken.

    On some slower days, our platinum pass got us Quick Queue for 15 dollars. When we went to pick them up the park actually refunded us the money and gave them for free, essentially saying you'll only need it for one ride today.

    Guest services with Busch parks can sometimes be inconsistent, but they're normally pretty good about these kinds of things. Just know, if they can't select the discount from their system they can't reduce the rate easily. There was an issue we had with inconsistent discounts on our QQ at BGT and they couldn't really adjust or fix it. They did however give us a bunch of Busch bucks to use in the park to make up the difference.

    I hate their automated systems since they work 50% of the time from my experience, but if you're being offered 50% you'll "probably" get it honored or something close to it. Busch in my opinion has the best season pass discount perks on pretty much everything for platinum members, it just tends to not always work, haha.

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