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    • Unfortunately no, I heard possibly not until December. One of the trains is taken apart right outside the work area under the brake run.  I also forgot to mention that they are temporarily having everyone go through the Quick Queue entrance and then there is someone there directing people back to the main line if they don't have Quick Queue with the first part of the main queue closed off to have more lockers installed.
    • That is what I have always been told by those in the know (and what my son was always led to believe when he was a ride op there)  That it is a small but profitable regional park. 🤷‍♀️ I think a lot of people discount the role that the water park plays in attendance.  Shortage of staff there got a lot more yakking on FB than anything about the dry park.  Also, I would hope the fact that it is one of the original 3 ground up parks in the chain, and I believe the only one designed in house by Six Flags, would give it SOME sort of priority. Or maybe I am just assuming historical significance means something to people other than me. 🙄
    • They would if they invested in the Park properly.  Ask any long-term resident of the STL area about Six Flags, chances are you won't get any rave reviews.  I don't think people dislike the Park but it is just so-so.  The Park, generally, hasn't changed since the 90's.  Same old rides, same old experience, same this, same that, same everything.  The Additions we have gotten (since 2000s) have kept things alive, but they are not the kind which create long term excitement and make people want to revisit the 50 year old Park.  This is all due to Upper Mgmt and their stingy ways for the last 20 years.   I wish it was owned locally, it would be a much better Park for sure.   
    • I stopped in for another short visit yesterday. Cheetah Hunt has been closed for over a week. The Sky Ride has reopened and the carousel's walls are down so it looks like that will be reopening soon as well. Iron Gwazi had 4 people checking restraints which really helped dispatches but unfortunately when I was about to ride, the train had a sensor issue with a restraint in another car and that shut down the ride for the rest of the day. Hopefully they keep 4 people checking restraints since it would have been less than a 15 minute wait if the ride had not broken down. Sheikra was also running 2 trains that was not expected. Not counting the time spent at Iron Gwazi without riding, in the last 70 minutes the park was open I was able to ride Sheikra twice, Kumba, Phoenix Rising, Sky Ride and Cobra's Curse.  The tree is up ahead of Christmas Town starting next week. I'm looking forward to later closing times and Iron Gwazi night rides. The relocated kids rides were testing.  
    • I agree with us being number 3. Ppl in St. Louis do not support the park. For most of the spring and summer I never waited more than 5-10 mins in any line on Sundays and I visit the park often. 
    • Unless we've been wrong or lied to all along it's been said STL is a profitable park. That should plant it in #2.  Obviously if it actually doesn't print money it's in group 3.
    • Honestly, I see category 3 being the most likely, but 2 is possible as well.  SFStL didn't get a new attraction survey, right?
    • And just where does Six Flags St. Louis fit in all that. My guess would be number 2.
    • Having read through the transcript of the call, and reviewed the slides, it sounds like there's more than just "good" and "bad" parks in their eyes The "core," high-performing parks that have been seeing investment and will continue to do so. The "core," low-performing parks that they're going to try investing in, and if it doesn't make it into a high-performing park, the category will change. The "non-core," low-performing parks that may be salvageable into profitable parks. The "non-core", low-performing parks that are on the immediate chopping block if they can't get their act together. The "non-core" parks that are already officially slated for closure (SFA, CGA). Based on what Zimmerman and the other guy said, it sounds like there's a bit of fluidity and movement possible between types 2, 3, and 4.
    • Only investing in already humming along properties sounds like a recipe for a company to have zero growth. I don't have an MBA or anything but that seems like a dumb plan if you're trying to grow your numbers.
    • Earnings call today was terrible - another bad quarter. The company's goal now is to get smaller as soon as possible and only invest in parks that get visited the most and bring strong profit to the company. Looks like STL will be on the "crap we can't buy anything list" 
    • There's plan A, plan B and then "oh crap we can't buy anything".
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