gerstlaueringvar Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 ^ Got it, thanks for explaining it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckInSD Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 That looks more like hang-time than air-time to me. That drop looks epic, but God, I hope they can make that tower look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 That looks more like hang-time than air-time to me. Haha, yeah. I wonder at what point (in terms of drop steepness) does it go from airtime to hangtime. I guess that's hard to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThemeParkJunkie51290 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 That looks more like hang-time than air-time to me. That drop looks epic, but God, I hope they can make that tower look good. I think they should have jungle vines growing all around the tower. That would look so cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Also, positives kick in as soon as it reaches the inflection point (before it reaches 90 degrees on the pull-out). Doesn't the negative G force between the inflection point and 90 degrees point balance the positive G force? That's the point of having a parabolic shaped "Zero G section" I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I discussed the possibility of the 0G sensation with my study group earlier but we couldn't find the right formulas to correctly set up the parabola, can anyone help us with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fooz Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Look up kinematic equations, if you know the speed and angle to the entry to the section it should be easy. Of course, not knowing the resisting force of the fins on the approach, there's no way to calculate the speed going into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Also, positives kick in as soon as it reaches the inflection point (before it reaches 90 degrees on the pull-out). Doesn't the negative G force between the inflection point and 90 degrees point balance the positive G force? That's the point of having a parabolic shaped "Zero G section" I guess. In theory yes. But remember that even if they do that the positive Gs will have to start before the 90 degrees part as "in theory" (and with no drag) an object falling (with initial horizontal speed) will never fall vertically, which is why a vertical drop will always have to have some air, even if it's not a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccfan007 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Images from lagoonisfun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassinthegrass Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I'm confused, what's with the off center garage door at the top? Kind of hard to park that high up off the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCF Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I'm confused, what's with the off center garage door at the top? Kind of hard to park that high up off the ground... It's for access to the elevator system for maintenance. So I took some photos on Thursday outside of Lagoon when they were installing a piece of track, although I didn't realize it until I looked back at the photos so I only got photos of them installing the piece. Here are some of the photos from that day. NOTE: I have an old, busted camera that has the black dots inside the lens and shows up in every picture. Sorry for the nuisance. Here is Cannibal from afar! Wicked sure does look like a jealous middle-child, but the skyline definitely looks amazing from here! Here is where you see the track piece in the air being put into place. Something not mentioned here much, but Roller Coaster is currently going through a complete rebuild that has been going on for years now. This off-season, the lift is getting the love! Track piece is installed! Directly looking at the drop in front. So many cranes are on site for this ride. Reason is because of how great the weather is for a Utah December. It almost reached 60 degrees this day, with no sign of getting colder. The ride looks great from it's right side. However, the dots really do ruin some great photos. The completely right side of Cannibal is breathtaking with that drop! Here is some twisty track laying in the field. There's actually a lot of track and supports laying all around in the overflow parking lot. I felt so naughty taking a picture of Cannibal's back side. Something not seen or known too well, but the Lagoon Trail that borders the south and east side of Lagoon gets VERY close to Rattlesnake Rapids. This shows the ride down for the year. Figured it would be a cool photo to share. To end these construction photos, here is a complete left-side silhouette of Cannibal's drop. Thanks for viewing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgetman82 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 ^Great photos, thank you for sharing them. Maybe it's my interest in ride theming talking, but I'm especially interested about the themed possible head-chopper tunnel at the bottom of that ridiculous drop! It looks like it was modeled in NL, but in a very good way! What is the ride supposed to be themed to, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCF Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 ^Great photos, thank you for sharing them. Maybe it's my interest in ride theming talking, but I'm especially interested about the themed possible head-chopper tunnel at the bottom of that ridiculous drop! It looks like it was modeled in NL, but in a very good way! What is the ride supposed to be themed to, exactly? From what it seems like, a loosly themed African/Tribal theme. I don't think it will be completely known until opening. I just know it will contain the two temples with the elephant and rhino, and have 3 old lion statues from Utah's state capitol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Great photos, I guess the element following the first drop would be an Immelmann+wave turn combined element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreaminNewEngland Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 How long is this coaster going to be? Is there a complete track layout picture anywhere? From what I saw in the animated picture, it seems awfully short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nannerdw Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I really hope they're going to add a bit of decoration to the outside of that giant metal shack. It just looks kind of, umm... hideous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shavethewhales Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 How long is this coaster going to be? Is there a complete track layout picture anywhere? From what I saw in the animated picture, it seems awfully short. I don't think it's that short. It's comparable to any G-fighter or Wicked. Keep in mind that the concept art didn't show all the track, or most of the theming elements. There's still a few surprises in store from this coaster. This is now easily the new ride I'm most excited about in 2015. I'm putting it on my schedule for 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I wonder how steep the drop is. From the pictures it looks almost as steep as takabisha's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 It's 116°, Takabisha is 121. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDG Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Cannibal's drop looks a lot more extreme though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBrylczyk Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I can't wait to make the drive back up to SLC next summer. My first visit to Lagoon this past July was fantastic and the park went completely above and beyond my expectations! Cannibal looks like it's gonna be well worth the 6 hour drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nwstone Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I haven't been following this board I came to see if cannibal was coming along and oh my god it looks insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThemeParkJunkie51290 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 So, I'm sitting here thinking, "Should I skip Carowinds, Holiday World, Kentucky Kingdom, and Legoland FL. Use all my money for those parks and just get a plane ticket and fly to Utah so I can visit Lagoon Park for the first time, and ride this "one of a kind" Cannibal coaster?" Decisions. . .Decisions. . .Decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCForce Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I've kind of skimmed through. Has anyone speculated on what the un-revealed element to this coaster is? I'm thinking that enclosed elevator lift could take you up to the top, then free-fall all the way back down before shooting you back to the top to do the ride. Kind of Tower of Terror meets a Eurofighter extreme. My 2 cents for the day. Something is going to happen in that massive enclosed lift structure. Otherwise, why enclose it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I've kind of skimmed through. Has anyone speculated on what the un-revealed element to this coaster is? I'm thinking that enclosed elevator lift could take you up to the top, then free-fall all the way back down before shooting you back to the top to do the ride. Kind of Tower of Terror meets a Eurofighter extreme. My 2 cents for the day. Something is going to happen in that massive enclosed lift structure. Otherwise, why enclose it? I have been hoping for the same. I would love for there to be a giant indoor freefall element. However, I highly doubt that is going to happen. But... If it does, I am booking a flight to Utah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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