A week at a Knoebels cottage!

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Re: A week at a Knoebels cottage!

Postby ytterbiumanalyst » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:55 pm

That's how it is around here too. Schools are penalized for having a low attendance %, so on days where too many parents would pull their kids out they'll just call it a school holiday instead. Not all, but a good number of rural districts in MO close the first day of hunting season for exactly this reason.
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Re: A week at a Knoebels cottage!

Postby prozach626 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:34 am

Thanks for taking some in depth pictures of the cottages. They only have a few pictures of each one on their website. I haven't read past the first page yet, but I'm looking forward to reading more.

Also, is that your Focus ST?

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We really would love to do more of an extended stay at Knoebels, and I'm really hoping that someday Knoebels builds something more like what Cedar Point has with their Lighthouse Point cabins. Nice, newer accommodations that feel more like a more modern hotel, but in a small cabin with a fire pit! That's more my idea of "roughing it!" :Pr


Right there with you. Emily and I really wanted to pull the trigger on a cottage, but it just seemed like too much of a toss-up. I'm sure it would have been fine. I'm a pretty big hotel snob.

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Re: A week at a Knoebels cottage!

Postby bill_s » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:14 am

The cottages remind me of my family being loaned a relatives' place down at the beach for a week when I was young, except not as good a deal. Also even a trailer has a tiny second bathroom ... I expect you guys had an emergency bush.

It's all very Knoebels though ... it would be weirder if it was less weird?

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Re: A week at a Knoebels cottage!

Postby PKI Jizzman » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:26 am

Loving this report :b

When I first read Knoebels + cabin your pictures confirmed the picture I painted in my head haha. Clean and comfy, but with way too many of grammas kisses.

The cave tour looked really spectacular being on the water and all. Great pictures of all the animals! Too bad the foxes didn't want to peek out.

Keep it up!

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Re: A week at a Knoebels cottage!

Postby Rai Fox » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:17 am

prozach626 wrote:Thanks for taking some in depth pictures of the cottages. They only have a few pictures of each one on their website. I haven't read past the first page yet, but I'm looking forward to reading more.

Also, is that your Focus ST?


Yes, it is! I love it, but not sure how much longer I'll have it; a small-ish car is becoming increasingly impractical for me these days. Holding on to it as long as I can though!

bill_s wrote:The cottages remind me of my family being loaned a relatives' place down at the beach for a week when I was young, except not as good a deal. Also even a trailer has a tiny second bathroom ... I expect you guys had an emergency bush.

It's all very Knoebels though ... it would be weirder if it was less weird?


Definitely. A plain, ordinary hotel room would be incredibly out of place there.


Anyway, sorting through pictures for the next couple days now; will have Hershey up in a bit!

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Re: A week at a Knoebels cottage!

Postby Rai Fox » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:53 am

Alright, day 3 and 4 update!

My group didn't have any big plans for day 3. While I personally would have loved to get out to hit Dorney, or Camel Beach, or anything else along those lines, not everyone on the trip is as much an amusement park junkie as I am, and I wanted it to be fun for everyone, so this was going to be a "just hang out and relax with friends" day. That's nice enough when you have people from all over half of the country together for one of only a couple times a year, anyway.

We figured we'd all be sleeping late, but one of our group thinks "late" is 7 AM, and most of us woke up earlier than we would have otherwise once we smelled bacon cooking.

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Sleeping late is great, but...priorities.


While the plan had been for a mostly non-park day...we were at Knoebels, and everyone wanted to play games. Well, there's one game you can't play many places other than Knoebels anymore! That was a compromise we could work with.

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This ended up being the luckiest day I've ever had at Fascination. Won something like 5 games out of the 20 ish we placed, including a coverall game. By the end of the week, with my tickets and some donated by friends in my group, I picked up a toaster to complement the toaster oven I won there a couple years back. Better than rubber spiders and penny candy!


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And of course with Gelati right outside the Fascination parlor...well, I was there to show my friends all the great things at Knoebels, so we had to get some!


Everyone else wanted to just sit and relax and people watch a bit after finishing their gelatis. Fair enough, but...I see something I'm a lot more interested in just a minute away. In fact, it's rather a travesty that it's my third day at the park and I haven't done this yet already.

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And it's just waiting there for someone to come ride it, too! Power Surge might just be my favorite flat ride anywhere.


The others wanted to head back, play a couple games, and get ready to hit the pool. I'd meet them back there a few minutes later. After all, we'd hit Phoenix the first night, but there was still something missing.

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There we go. I'm still in the group that things Twister is just as good as Phoenix.


Especially this year. It seems like they do at least some track work every year, but whatever they did this year made a big difference; Twister was running possibly the best I can ever remember. Fast, smooth, still out of control as always. The green train seemed even better than the purple one this year, but both were awesome.

We all hit the pool and waterslides for a while afterwards. I wish I had pictures, but...phones and pools aren't really the greatest combination; especially an already damaged phone. There weren't a ton of people in the pool despite the hot weather; plenty of room to swim and relax. We had free passes to the pool that the park gives to people renting their cottages, and for $1.50 each they upgraded them to pool+slide passes; awesome! Knoebels waterslides are maybe not quite world class, but they're fun! The two mat slides are simple loops with a drop at the end, but they absolutely fly, and you can get legit airtime just hitting the water brakes at the end. The tube slides depend on how you ride them. On a single tube, they're pretty relaxing. Go down with someone else on a double and they're an entirely different experience, tearing down the slides and ending up nearly inverted in the tunnel corners!

Before the trip, one of the members of my group had mentioned that the trip would be fun, but that it was too bad that middle-of-nowhere Pennsylvania wasn't likely to have any good brewpubs. I took finding one as a challenge, and...Old Force Brewing Company, not too far away in Danville, looked promising! Tonight was going to be the night to find out if you can get really good beer in Pennsyltucky. I have to admit, parts of the area were less than promising driving in...

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This definitely looks like high quality authentic food right here.


Fortunately, the brewpub looked a lot better than John's Asian.

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This looks much more like my kind of place!


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The menu here is a little bit all over the place. Irish bangers and mash, falafel, crab cakes, and udon noodles. Huh.


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Pretty much everyone got something different, and different beers as well.


We all were very happy with our beers. I had a black ale that was among the best I've had; between us all we tried porters, stouts, ales and ipas and every one was quite good. It turns out that yes, there is top notch beer to be had even here!

Food was a little bit less even. Most was very good! I did a build-your-own-burger with bacon, mushrooms, and beer cheese. Burger and bacon all perfectly cooked, nicely sauteed mushrooms, and the beer cheese was fantastic. The other burgers at the table were well appreciated, too. A couple people had the Bangers and Mash and raved about them; the chicken and waffles was apparently good too. Unfortunately a couple of the dishes weren't quite as loved; one person ordered the shepherd's pie and found it to be a very odd take on the recipe, with a thick, heavy crunchy topping in place of any mashed potato, and didn't eat much of it. Another person tried the falafel and said it was terrible; I tried a bit of that and had to agree, it was very dry and almost entirely flavorless. Sadly, no one had room to try their honey lavender cheesecake or stout cake with coffee mousse.

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Perfect burger!


Overall, definitely liked the place, and will probably go back someday. Just don't order falafel.

Back to the cottage then to hang out with friends a bit.

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Red Dragon Inn! I don't really know why I had a picture of this, and didn't notice it in the batch upload, but any time I try deleting one out of the middle of a bunch, it causes weird issues, and I'm not re-doing the whole batch now, so it can stay.

For the record, I lost horribly. As usual. Playing this character usually means you piss off the other players before 2 minutes into the game, and get everyone taking you out first.


And on to things more interesting to most here! Day 4, back to parks!

As I'm sure I'm mentioned other places, I've had terrible luck with Hershey Park over the last several years. Every attempt to get there has ended up being a miserable day due to weather and/or extreme crowds. The last time I tried the park, I spent all day there and got on four coasters and one flat ride all day, with the lines. I really want to like the park, but it hasn't been great to me...I was cautiously optimistic that this time might turn it around. Not everyone was, especially since the forecast called for heat and humidity and then possibly major thunderstorms later in the day, so half the group stayed behind, but several of us braved the meteorological threats.

As it turned out, the major thunderstorms turned out to be approximately 6 raindrops over the space of 20 seconds around 2:00. The heat and humidity definitely made their appearance, but not to an unbearable degree.

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Not looking too crowded, probably because of the forecast. That's promising! In the distance, the biggest reason I wanted to be there! I'd never been on Skyrush yet!


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Weather holding steady, light crowds, Skyrush running. This might just be the seemingly-mythical great day at Hershey for me!


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And this was the extent of the line for Skyrush! Straight to the back left seat for me!


...and then the rather hefty young woman attending my side of the train came and threw her entire weight into the restraints to staple me in. I've never been so crushed into a restraint on any coaster in my life. It was painful before we even left the station. Those of you who've ridden Skyrush probably know what came after that.

I want to love this coaster; the layout is great, it's so fast and aggressive and relentless, and forceful coasters like this are so rare now...but every airtime hill was excruciating. I am not someone to complain about rough coasters. I loved Wildcat even when it had its old trains (Actually, that applies to Hershey's AND Lake Compounce's Wildcats!). I got off Hercules at Dorney, went around and re-rode it. This was not the same thing at all. With the way the restraint fit me, and how unbelievably tight it had been forced down, there was nothing to do to ride defensively; just wait for it to end.

I don't understand how these restraints could be designed so badly. With something along the lines of B&M's clamshell restraints, this could be one of the best coasters in the world. I got off it barely able to walk though, and 2 out of the 3 friends sharing the back row with me said they'd never ride it again. I wouldn't quite go that far; maybe with someone less determined to staple riders to death, it might be more tolerable, but...this was just not a good few minutes here. Crazy to have such a coaster so ruined by a restraint design like this.

Maybe I'd give it another shot, but not that moment. On to something I knew would be a little nicer to me; one old classic that's stayed pretty smooth over the years. Sooper-Dooper-Looper doesn't have much to brag about in numbers or layout these days, but it's still a fun little ride, and surprisingly comfortable.

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One shot, three hills, and none of them even the coaster I'm about to get on. I love how tightly packed the coasters are here.


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A little iffy on the current trains. Not a huge deal, but they look like they're going for an almost futuristic look, for a very classic ride? They ride well though.


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And time to get a bit wet! I love a good log flume, and the old Arrow Hydroflumes are must dos with how rare they are now. I think Coal Cracker is one of two left, if I'm not mistaken? Certainly not missing it anyway.

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Especially with nearly no line!


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I don't know why more rides don't use this type of loading station. So efficient and easy.


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I literally spent more time waiting for my boat to circle the turntable than I had in the entire line.


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Not a huge splash, but that little hop of airtime is great


Given how hot the day was, a wetter flume might have been nice; none of us got more than a bit of mist out of the final drop, but still such a fun ride.

And over to Great Bear! Inverts are still my absolute favorite coaster type, and the bear might not be the best loved of them overall, but I've always had a soft spot for it. It's not forceful or intense, but it's graceful and smooth, and in a pretty awesome setting. If it were a little bit longer, it might just be one of my favorites.

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Again, the entirety of the line for the ride.


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The station for Great Bear also gives a great chance to see that little airtime hump at the bottom of Coal Cracker's drop. Fly, little boat, fly!


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Another game of count-the-coaster that would have been much better had I not failed to get Comet in the shot


To get to the other half of the park, we had to pass the Zooamerica entrance, and there was no way my group was going to skip that, especially not when it was free. I debated cutting these pictures out since I've already filled a lot of space with animal pictures, but...

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HUGE snapping turtle. I wish there was anything for scale here. This guy had to be five feet long.


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And a much smaller alligator. They're actually kinda cute when they're small.


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These guys clearly knew that "human in the enclosure" means food. Not one bit shy about her.


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Snacking on a nice little salad, not a care in the world


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Ocelot! What an absolutely beautiful little cat. It looks a bit sad though.


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Aw. Yeah, I'd be pretty sad too. People suck sometimes. Poor kitty.


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Ringtail! Ringtails are cute...but do not hold still for pictures.


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More bobcats!


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This guy was having a little pool party for himself, and seemed to love attention and cameras


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These guys want to know why they're not getting Double Stuff Oreos like Penn's Cave's bears!


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Sentry duty


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This guy is staring us down just daring us to make some trite "Nevermore" comment


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Wolf! Not as pretty nor as interested in visitors as Chorro back at the other park, though.


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Pine Martens are absolutely adorable, but, but this guy was in having too much fun leaping around his home to pose for a flattering picture. You can just kinda see him running across the beam, center left.


Okay, enough animals! That's the last of them for the week, I promise. Back to the park! It was getting close to lunchtime now, so time to find something good! ...And this was where we found one of the bigger problems for the day. I wanted a drink, and those BBLZ ones I'd heard about sounded good!

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Almost all of these look good. Which to try?


Oh. None of them. The place was chained off and closed.

Okay, how about one of those big super shakes? Ah. Closed. Hmmm. Ice cream? Nope...well, dippin dots? Not Hershey ice cream, but still nice...oh, closed too.

Okay, so food is going to be a challenge...how about a break for some games?

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Wellp.


Perhaps because of staff shortages after younger workers had gone back to school, nearly everything in the park other than the rides was closed. The only food that seemed to be open were the chain stuff; Subway, Chickies and Petes, Moe's, and a couple places near the gate. Not greeaat.

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Most of the rides were at least running, with a few exceptions. Given the problems Skyrides have been having lately, I'm not shocked that this wasn't...and it's so short as to be mostly pointless anyway...


We ended up giving up and heading out of the park to try Hersheypark Place, the full service restaurant outside the gate. Somewhat to my surprise, it ended up being quite good, and far more reasonably priced that I expected. Sandwiches and burgers and such were in the $10-$14 range, which for a full service restaurant at a pricey amusement park...no complaints there. I ended up getting another burger (...I know. I really should branch out) and went with their specialty of the week one, with a red pepper cole slaw and spicy mustard on a pretzel roll. While it wasn't quite on bar with the pub burgers of previous days, it wasn't bad by any means, and better than I expected for the park. The raspberry lemonade I had, given how hot it was outside, was one of the most refreshing things I could even remember, and I may have abused the free refills a bit. This place definitely gets my recommendation for a meal at Hershey; almost normal, non-park prices, decent food, and air conditioning.

We still had coasters to ride though, and I'd promised everyone I wouldn't keep them at the park all day, since half the group was waiting for us back at the cottage, so we hurried back in and down to the far end of the park.

No one had much interest in the drop towers. For those of us that cared for them...basically just myself...Stratosfear was in the future, so these were pretty superfluous, and left me missing Condor. No need to bother with that area at all then...down to Farenheit!

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Vertical lift hills are still mildly intimidating for some reason!


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I love this twisted tangle of track. Always fun to have so much packed into a small area.


The last time I was at Hershey, Farenheit was new, the park was horrifically overcrowded, and we waited hours for it. By time I got on, I was too overheated, dehydrated, and irritable to really enjoy it as much as I would have, and it didn't leave much of an impression. Fortunately, this time was far different. We walked right on and claimed the front couple rows. Turns out that Farenheit is a pretty great coaster, and I'm kind of surprised that it doesn't seem to get that much attention. It's a pretty big step up over a Eurofighter in size and intensity, smoother than anything along those lines that I've been along, and all in a pretty similar footprint. I'd expect to see more of these from Intamin, but given that the page for Intamin Vertical Lift coaster on wikipedia only goes directly to Farenheit, I'm guessing this is it?

The day was getting hotter, and Tidal Force was looking pretty good, but...exactly how wet did we want to be?

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Maybe not that wet.


Almost everyone riding it was wearing swimsuits and getting off drenched. With the humidity, we knew we'd never dry off, and didn't want to ride home still wet, so we ended up giving it a pass, somewhat regretfully in my case; I really enjoy those big flumes.

On the other hand, just past it, a big old tangle of twisted wood track was calling my name. As I mentioned before, I always enjoyed Wildcat, and as its gotten a bit less punishing to ride over the years, of course I was getting on it.

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I love wild, twisty wooden coasters with lots of laterals; Wildcat is among the best of them, if you can take the beating it can sometimes offer you.


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I guess Hershey's given up on this ride ever being popular; as far as I can remember this wasn't just a product of the park being understaffed today, but had been closed the last several times I'd been here.


I don't know if Wildcat had track work done recently, if the weather was just right, if we just got lucky or what, but it was running incredibly well today. I wouldn't even consider it rough at all; really not noticeably worse than Twister at Knoebels, and Twister's running smoothly this year! Maybe it's more the heavily padded trains than the actual ride, but it felt pretty great. If Wildcat always ran like this, I think it would have an entirely different place in the park, and in peoples' minds. Fast, crazy, forceful; at least that one ride put it way up in my top coasters list. I wanted to get back on it, but my group was pretty determined to get everything in the park once and get back; not how I usually like to approach a park, but...compromises, I suppose, so we headed on to Laugh Track.

Laugh Track might not be the best in the park, and it definitely had the longest line...but it was a line that featured air conditioning for a good part of it, so no one had any complaints.

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It also had a Laughin' Sal. I always remember Kennywood's but I didn't know they had one here too.


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So nice that this coaster has this nostalgic, classic decor, instead of modern themepark advertising.


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*sigh* Nevermind.


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Mirrors, fun. Air conditioning, amazing.


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Sadly, we're going to have to give up the AC soon and settle for the actual ride.


Laugh Track? Not bad! I wasn't expecting much, but having ridden Steel Dragon at Waldameer a couple months ago, the themeing in here does make a big different and make it quite a bit more fun than the basic ride. It's no Space Mountain, or even Exterminator, but as long as the line isn't too long to be worth it, it's a good time. Would have been even better with more spinning, but we had a well balanced car, unfortunately.

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Hey, these look good! Especially the jalapeno ones! We never actually found a place that served them, just signs for them. Wherever they are, it was probably closed...dammit Hershey)


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Well, speaking of tangled messes of wooden track, there's one more of those for me here.


Lighting Racer has always been a favorite of mine. It's best at night, when you can crest the to of the lift hill and look down on that spaghetti-bowl of chaser lights along both tracks, but I wasn't going to skip any chance to ride it! We picked Thunder (green) side. Unfortunately, while in the past it seems like it's been pretty close and either train could win any time, that didn't seem to be the case today. Even though red had quite a few empty seats and we definitely seemed to have the fuller, heavier train, Lighting won by quite a bit. Watching afterwards, that side was taking every win. Not as much fun that way! Still, beyond that, the LR felt every bit as good as it did when it was brand new, and I still love the dueling elements.

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C'mon Thunder!


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Nope. Lightning wins again.


After we gave up watching to see if Thunder would ever win, we got into what was probably the longest line of the day for us.

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Everyone wanted Ritas. We were hoping for Mistos, but they had everything but that. They did have watermelon cream ice though, so the line was worth it.


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We found where the rest of the crowds were; the waterpark was pretty well packed. No surprise.


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We found where the rest of the crowds were; the waterpark was pretty well packed. No surprise.


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Sidewinder! Even the less enthusiastic about coasters in my group had been on enough Boomerangs though. We skipped that and Trailblazer.


We did head down to hit Storm Runner, of course, since it would be the fastest launched coaster at least one of my friends had been on. It's still a pretty great ride; obviously it doesn't have the intensity of Kingda Ka, but it's a nice change to actually have a ride after the top hat, too, and it has some really good interactions with the terrain and some of the other rides. Good stuff, still.

...And yet I entirely forgot to take any pictures there.

Unfortunately, that was as long as I could convince my group to stick around; they all knew we'd be spending the next few days in the park at Knoebels, and wanted time to rest up first. I'd have loved to stick around Hershey for some night rides, but I couldn't entirely blame them. We were going to be on our feet quite a lot.

Overall, a pretty decent day at Hershey, far better than my last couple attempts. It was a bit disappointing that most of their unique food and treat options weren't available, but even with the low crowds, the important rides were all up and running, and operations were for the most part very good. Only Farenheit was really stacking trains at all, all the other crews were getting them out of the station in impressive time. I still can't shake the feeling that a few things at Hershey just aren't quite as good as they could be, but some of it might just be bias going in. It does seem like, somehow, despite the amount of trees and scenery at the park, you end up spending a lot of time standing out in the sun without shade. Flat ride operations are still pretty sad, with very short rides for some reason. They still have a pretty awesome collection of coasters though, and some really deserve more attention than they get. I think I can withdraw many of my previous complaints about Hershey, and I'm sure I'll head back, but next time, I want to try one of those bblz drinks.

...and damn you, sadistic Skyrush stapler.

Anyway, heading back Knoebels, we gathered everyone up and returned to Nickel Plate for the second time. This time, someone else drove so I could try the drinks (fantastic) along with the Santa Fe chicken salad (equally amazing). We got a bit of time to rest up then, since Friday would be the first "real" day at Knoebels. It had been painful waiting that long to really get into the park, but if we were going to get wristbands, we wanted it to be when the park was open until late.

Next time!

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Re: A week at a Knoebels cottage!

Postby prozach626 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:18 pm

Rai Fox wrote:
prozach626 wrote:Thanks for taking some in depth pictures of the cottages. They only have a few pictures of each one on their website. I haven't read past the first page yet, but I'm looking forward to reading more.

Also, is that your Focus ST?


Yes, it is! I love it, but not sure how much longer I'll have it; a small-ish car is becoming increasingly impractical for me these days. Holding on to it as long as I can though!


Nice, man! I like the way those cars look and I've heard they're a blast to drive. Unfortunately, I've never driven one. I love fun cars that are practical, hence why I've owned a WRX and two STI's since 2013. I'm tired of spending money on new cars every time I get them paid off, so I forked over the cash to pay for my 2018 STI in full and I've vowed to keep it for at least 100k miles, which should take me at least 5-6 years. Sorry to change the subject.

Back on topic, I'm jealous that you had a chance to take a trip with so many of your friends. As I read more into your thread it sounds like you guys had a blast.

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Re: A week at a Knoebels cottage!

Postby Rai Fox » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:35 pm

prozach626 wrote:Nice, man! I like the way those cars look and I've heard they're a blast to drive. Unfortunately, I've never driven one. I love fun cars that are practical, hence why I've owned a WRX and two STI's since 2013. I'm tired of spending money on new cars every time I get them paid off, so I forked over the cash to pay for my 2018 STI in full and I've vowed to keep it for at least 100k miles, which should take me at least 5-6 years. Sorry to change the subject.

Back on topic, I'm jealous that you had a chance to take a trip with so many of your friends. As I read more into your thread it sounds like you guys had a blast.


It's definitely a blast to drive, and it has a decent amount of room inside, gets better-than-advertised mileage if I show a bit of restraint, and I haven't had to do anything but scheduled maintenance for it yet. It's been damn near perfect, really. I just do quite a lot of travelling lately, usually with lots of stuff to find room for, and between that, work, and generally being "group mom" when it comes to taking friends all over the place, I think something bigger is going to be in my near future. Might try to get my hands on a Flex before they stop making them; with the Ecoboost, they're a lot more fun to drive than they have any right to be.

As for taking trips with friends, I'm very lucky that I'm able to! Trying to wrangle bigger groups can be frustrating at times, a lot of cat-herding, and compromises to be made, but in the end it almost always ends up being a lot more fun, if you have the right people. Going back to places I've been before is a lot more fun when I have new people to share them with, too. This time was great, one of the best trips I've taken in a long while.

Next year's plan, Busch Gardens food and wine festival. Gonna get everyone fat.

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Re: A week at a Knoebels cottage!

Postby bert425 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:43 pm

great report on Hershey, tho sad so many of the food options were closed (that bubbles place was open when we were there w/ TPR, but I don't recall seeing many people getting them. . .the giant shake place tho, had a line every time).

glad to see someone else took time from park to do ZooAmerica, as my TPR group did too. . I also loved it, and have tons of pics to share too when my TR gets to that point.

I did skip power surge at Knoebel's tho. . now I wish I had tried it at least.. .but I did get to ride Downdraft.

keep up the great TR. . very much enjoying reading it!
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Re: A week at a Knoebels cottage!

Postby prozach626 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:47 pm

Great choice with Busch Gardens. You'll have a blast. I tried my first shot at a 'guys trip' this summer and someone backed out at the last minute. I couldn't find anyone to go, so I roped in Emily to fill the gap. So much for the 'guys trip.' To top it all off, it took one of my close friends over a month to pay me for the up front gas and hotel costs. You shouldn't have to reach out to people for money, but not everyone is considerate.

The cave tour looked awesome and it's cool that you guys got to explore more than just Knoebels. I was wondering how that would play out as far as keeping yourselves entertained for an entire week if you were doing the park only.

As far as MPG goes in your car, I'm jealous with my 18 mpg on 93 octane. FML. It's pretty standard even when I shift below 3k, so I tend to gently ride out the RPM's without giving a ffff, anymore.

Looking forward to going back and looking at your Hershey trip when I get time.

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