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Shanghai Disney Resort Discussion Thread

Postby Dr Freeze » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:58 pm

Hey everybody!

This thread is simple! Rather than having a million little threads about everything that goes on at Shanghai Disneyland, this thread is designed to consolidate it all into one user-friendly thread. Feel free to use it to post updates, trip reports, questions, comments, and of course, general discussion.


Below are some links to past updates from the park, you may be interested in. Enjoy!

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2009
January 9th, 2009 - Shanghai Disneyland discussion resurfaces SEE BELOW!
November 4th, 2009 - Project gets preliminary government approval
Nov. 14th, 2009 - 5,000 families to be relocated to make room for park
Dec. 15th, 2009 - Disney close to a final agreement with Shanghai

2010
Feb. 4th, 2010 - Shanghai officials question park's potential success
Feb. 10th, 2010 - China to spend US$23 billion on infrastructure improvements around the park
Mar. 4th, 2010 - Disney gets final approval
Mar. 10th, 2010 - Park construction expexted to take 5 - 6 years
April 17th, 2010 - Disney to get approved land in July
May 30th, 2010 - Disneyland Shanghai project ahead of schedule
June 18th, 2010 - Disneyland project spotlights forced evictions
June 23rd, 2010 - Oriental Land Company may be involved with the park
July 6th, 2010 - Disney could start construction as early as November

2011
April 7th, 2011 - Construction to start April 8th, 2011
April 8th, 2011 - Shanghai Disneyland officially announced!
August 10th, 2011 - New Storybook Castle details released!
December 30th, 2011 - Attraction construction begins this Spring!

2012
April 10th, 2012 - Shanghai Disneyland secures 12.9 billian yuan loan
December 8th, 2012 - Metro line extension planned for Shanghai Disneyland
December 19th, 2012 - Recruitment begins for Shanghai Disneyland projects

2013
May 26th, 2013 - Construction on Storybook Castle begins!
December 5th, 2013 - 'Garden of the Twelve Friends' park hub announced!

2014
January 31st, 2014 - Hotel topped out & China Eastern Airlines partnership
February 25th, 2014 - Tron Coaster Construction Photos
March 18th, 2014 - 'Treasure Cove' Pirates of the Caribbean land unveiled!
April 28th, 2014 - Disney investing $800 million more in Shanghai Disney!
June 14th, 2014 - Permanent Broadway production of The Lion King announced for Shanghai Disneyland Resort!
August 4th, 2014 - Phillipe Gas named GM of Shanghai Disneyland
November14th, 2014 - Two Themed Hotels, Disneytown announced for SDR!

2015
February 3rd, 2015 - Shanghai Disney Resort construction update!

2016
January 13th, 2016 - June 12th announced as opening date
March 8th, 2016 - 100 days from grand opening, new pictures released
November 10th, 2016 - Ground breaking for Toy Story Land (2018)

2018
January 11th, 2018 - Rex and Trixie figures installed in Toy Story Land!
February 22nd, 2018 - New Toy Story Land preview photos & video!
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Business Week just posted the following:

The Walt Disney Co. said Friday that it was going to submit a plan to build a new theme park in China in a joint venture with the Shanghai government.

The family entertainment giant released a statement confirming its plans at about the same time as The Wall Street Journal released a story on its Web site that said Disney was working with Shanghai to build a $3.59 billion park to open as early as 2014.

A Disney spokesman declined to comment on the Journal story.

"Discussions have been ongoing about the feasibility of a theme park project in China," said Leslie Goodman, a spokeswoman for Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, in the statement.

"As part of this lengthy process, we worked on a joint application report with the Shanghai government which will be submitted to the central government for review. No deal has been signed, no project has been approved."

The first phase of the project, on about 1.5 square kilometers near Shanghai's Pudong International Airport, would include a theme park, plus a hotel and shopping development and would be built over six years, the paper said.
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Postby robbalvey » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:00 pm

It's very odd they would plan to open a park two years after the world is going to end.

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Postby HEADCHEEZ » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:03 pm

^ :lmao:

Disney is finally making a new resort! I can't wait to see what comes out!

As long as they don't use the bite size castle I'm happy!
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Postby mcjaco » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:15 pm

robbalvey wrote:It's very odd they would plan to open a park two years after the world is going to end.


It keeps costs down.

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Postby Captain Jack » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:54 pm

I just don't understand the point in building another Disney Parks resort in China when Hong Kong Disneyland has struggled in its attendance and has the public demanding more attractions. Wouldn't it make more sense to beef up Hong Kong Disneyland and give it some unique, one-of-a-kind attractions that no other Disney Park has to offer to make it a must-see destination?

I realize that Shanghai has a huge population and is really the center of commerce for China, but is it really in Disney's best interest to get involved in building a sixth resort in a time of economic struggle such as this?

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Postby SharkTums » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:11 pm

^One point that was stressed over and over to us by our Chinese guides on the TPR China trip last year was that the Chinese people do not travel far from home very often, and in fact it is very difficult for them to travel both financially and politically. Having a Disney Park in Shanghai opens up nearly a billion Chinese customers that can get there MUCH more easily than they can get to Hong Kong.

In fact on our recent trip to Hong Kong we were actually surprised at how many Brits and Aussies were in the park compared to Chinese people.

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Postby gisco » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:24 pm

HEADCHEEZ wrote:Disney is finally making a new resort! I can't wait to see what comes out!


Finally? HK Disneyland opened on 05. That is only a little over 3 years ago.

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Postby Airtime&Gravity » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:50 pm

^HKDL was only just the park and the hotel(s), but this new park sounds like it will be like DLR without California Adventure.(park, hotel, retail) The retail won't make it a resort, but with a price tag more than double HKDL ( something like 1.5 billion I believe), this should be more like the other Disney properties.

This is great news for China, and with a price tag of over three billion dollars, it should be a lot more complete than HKDL. One thing I disliked about HKDL was that many of the classic Disney attractions were missing, so hopefully this new park will be more complete.

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Shanghai Disneyland Discussion Thread

Postby Not For Sale » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:06 pm

From the official Disney blog
THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY REACHES ANOTHER MAJOR MILESTONE
ON SHANGHAI THEME PARK PROJECT

The Walt Disney Company today announced that the Project Application Report (PAR) for a Disney theme park in the Pudong district of Shanghai has received approval from the relevant authorities of the central government of China.

“China is one of the most dynamic, exciting and important countries in the world, and this approval marks a very significant milestone for The Walt Disney Company in mainland China,” said Robert A. Iger, president and CEO of The Walt Disney Company.

The PAR approval will enable Disney and its Shanghai partners to move forward toward a final agreement to build and operate the park and begin preliminary development work. Upon completion of the final agreement, the project’s initial phase would include a Magic Kingdom-style theme park with characteristics tailored to the Shanghai region and other amenities consistent with Disney’s destination resorts worldwide.

Shanghai, China


There's no other details at the time, unfortunately. Let the crazy speculation begin!
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New Disneyland in Shanghai

Postby slither37 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:28 pm

Shanghai Disneyland Gets Government Go-Ahead
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By LING WOO LIU / HONG KONG Ling Woo Liu / Hong Kong – Wed Nov 4, 10:00 am ET

Up until now, Disney's foray into China has been anything but magical. Its Hong Kong theme park, opened in 2005, has had a bumpy ride due to early missteps and competition - in its first year, attendance fell 400,000 short of an initial 5.6 million target. The following year, the number of visitors dropped to four million. To add insult to injury, the company in 2007 discovered an amusement park near Beijing that was filled with knockoff Disney characters.

But you don't throw in the towel in a market with 1.3 billion potential customers. After more than a decade of negotiations, Disney has received clearance to begin construction on its second Disneyland in China, this one in Shanghai. China's top planning agency Tuesday approved plans to build the new theme park, which will join existing parks in Anaheim, Orlando, Tokyo, Paris and Hong Kong. (See a brief history of Disney teen stars.)

Disney officials wouldn't say when the park will open or how much it will cost. The company stated in a press release that the Shanghai park will include "characteristics tailored to the Shanghai region," but a spokesperson declined to elaborate on what types of rides or attractions might be on offer. The Shanghai government has already reserved an estimated 1,000 acres near Shanghai's international airport in the city's Pudong district.

Some speculate that the Chinese government's sudden announcement that Disney could go ahead may be timed to precede U.S. President Barack Obama's first visit to China Nov. 15-18, which includes a stop in Shanghai. "It's a huge investment," says Shaun Rein, managing director of China Market Research Group in Shanghai. "By allowing this now it gives face to Obama and really shows that China and the U.S. need to work together to get out of this financial malaise."

Although theme parks made up less than a third of Disney's total revenue of $38 billion last year, Shanghai Disneyland still figures to be a key addition to the business because it will boost the company's visibility in one of the world's fastest-growing markets. Due to government rules aimed at protecting the public from what are perceived to be unwelcome foreign cultural influences, awareness of the Disney brand in China lags that of the rest of the world. Unlike in the U.S., where Disney operates a 24-hour TV channel and radio station, the company's presence in China is limited to a dozen hours of programming a week on local stations, five Disney-branded English language schools in Shanghai, and sales of Disney merchandise. In the last two years, Disney has also produced two children's films for the mainland, The Magic Gourd and Trail of the Panda. China limits the number of foreign films that are allowed to screen in theaters to 20 a year.

The approval for park construction comes amid China's ongoing efforts to develop its tourism sector, which is expected to increase by 3% this year. As disposable income in the country grows, amusement parks - by some estimates as many as 2,000 - have proliferated throughout the country, but the quality of the attractions is uneven. Earlier this year, a sex-themed park in the central Chinese city of Chongqing called "Love Land" was torn down before it could open to the public. Shanghai, however, could be on the verge of a tourism boom. The city will host the World Expo starting in May 2010.

Since mainland Chinese make up a third of visitors to Hong Kong Disneyland, some fear that the Shanghai park will siphon tourists away from the former British colony, which is part of China but has its own semi-autonomous government (mainland tourists must obtain visas to visit Hong Kong). Since opening four years ago, Hong Kong Disneyland has underperformed due to its small size - at 300 acres, it's the smallest of all Disney parks - as well as high ticket prices and competition from a nimble competitor called Ocean Park. (Read "The Fifth Happiest Place on Earth.")

Disney also has made several market miscalculations. Analysts say the company, trying not to make the same mistakes it did at its Paris resort by failing to tailor the Disney formula to local tastes, may have gone overboard in its efforts to adapt the Hong Kong venue to Chinese customers. For example, the park's restaurants originally planned to serve shark's fin soup, a Chinese delicacy, until environmentalists protested. But the biggest knock against Hong Kong Disneyland - of which the Hong Kong government owns 57% - is a lack of attractions. In July, Disney and the government moved to remedy that problem by announcing that three new attractions would be added over the next five years.

Disney officials dismissed concerns that a new park in Shanghai will steal Hong Kong customers. "We see that Hong Kong Disneyland and the Shanghai park as complementary," said an official in an e-mail. "We believe the Greater China market is large enough to support multiple parks."

Further expansion in Asia may be a good bet. Last year, roughly a quarter of Disney's revenues came from overseas operations. Asia contributed just 5%, but leisure-industry experts are bullish about the region's potential. Last year, eight of the world's top 20 amusement parks (by number of visitors) were in Asia, according to a report by the Burbank, Calif.-based Themed Entertainment Association. The buzz in Shanghai is already tangible. "Chinese consumers have a lot of love for Disney," says Rein. "They're more excited about Disneyland than the Expo."
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