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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby Haymaker » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:09 pm

dnn2031 wrote:Also prepare yourselves for another year of whining about RoS only having one train and probably ME until they spring for two updated ones on it as well.


So are you saying that its in 2020 plans or still unknown?

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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby coasterbill » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:35 am

Haymaker wrote:Giant Wheel lights?


Just a friendly reminder that the park is owned by Six Flags. Great Adventure's ferris wheel is now so ugly at night that (instead of putting LED lights on it or... you know... replacing bulbs), they've just decided to stop lighting at all due to it's overwhelming ugliness. I'm pretty sure there's not a single ferris wheel in the chain with a modern lighting package aside from Frontier City which had one when they bought it. The park is owned by Six Flags, not Disney. Please put the crackpipe down.

Six Flags will never spend money on anything unless it's absolutely essential for safety or they believe that it will directly generate revenue. Making a ferris wheel look pretty will not do that and therefore they don't care and will never care. This partnership is a good thing for Darien Lake, but please (for a second) try to have semi-reasonable expectations. You'll get marketable new additions (like the new Starflyer) but you're not going to get much in the way of general improvements. Any general improvements that you get will probably be accompanied by some type of IP re-branding to try to push merchandise sales or market something old as something new (which everyone in this thread will probably bitch about).
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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby Haymaker » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:32 am

coasterbill wrote:
Haymaker wrote:Giant Wheel lights?


Just a friendly reminder that the park is owned by Six Flags. Great Adventure's ferris wheel is now so ugly at night that (instead of putting LED lights on it or... you know... replacing bulbs), they've just decided to stop lighting at all due to it's overwhelming ugliness. I'm pretty sure there's not a single ferris wheel in the chain with a modern lighting package aside from Frontier City which had one when they bought it. The park is owned by Six Fags, not Disney. Please put the crackpipe down.

Six Flags will never spend money on anything unless it's absolutely essential for safety or they believe that it will directly generate revenue. Making a ferris wheel look pretty will not do that and therefore they don't care and will never care. This partnership is a good thing for Darien Lake, but please (for a second) try to have semi-reasonable expectations. You'll get marketable new additions (like the new Starflyer) but you're not going to get much in the way of general improvements. Any general improvements that you get will probably be accompanied by some type of IP re-branding to try to push merchandise sales or market something old as something new (which everyone in this thread will probably bitch about).


Oh i know... but one can hope. Back in the day they did paint Viper....

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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby rjr19 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:46 am

dnn2031 wrote:Also prepare yourselves for another year of whining about RoS only having one train and probably ME until they spring for two updated ones on it as well.


Is RoS planned to get two new trains or just one new train some day? I could see SF just getting two new 2nd gen trains for it, especially given the age gap the two trains would have if they bought another gen 1. Also, the current RoS train seems to already be having restraint issues.
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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby coasterbill » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:56 am

rjr19 wrote:Is RoS planned to get two new trains or just one new train some day?


I love how one of the most likely scenarios (no new trains ever) is totally omitted as a possibility. :lol:

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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby thrillseeker4552 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:51 am

rjr19 wrote:I could see SF just getting two new 2nd gen trains for it, especially given the age gap the two trains would have if they bought another gen 1.


I believe this was mentioned before, but an age gap would not be an issue at all. Silver Bullet at Knott's operated year-round for 13 years with two trains, and just this year they purchased a third one from B&M so they can cycle one through maintenance. Not saying Six Flags will do this, which as coasterbill mentioned is most likely anyway, but an age gap between two trains would not be an issue - especially since they are always getting rehabbed with new wheels, part replacements, padding, etc.

But given that Six Flags has purchased new trains for coasters before (Goliath and Mind Eraser at SFNE as well as major rehabs like New Revolution and what not), I wouldn't say it is completely out of the question for Ride of Steel to get a second train. But it probably isn't likely either.
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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby rjr19 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:07 pm

So the only coaster that may possibly get two trains is Viper, correct?
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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby Philrad71 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:25 pm

coasterbill wrote:
Haymaker wrote:Giant Wheel lights?


Just a friendly reminder that the park is owned by Six Flags. Great Adventure's ferris wheel is now so ugly at night that (instead of putting LED lights on it or... you know... replacing bulbs), they've just decided to stop lighting at all due to it's overwhelming ugliness. I'm pretty sure there's not a single ferris wheel in the chain with a modern lighting package aside from Frontier City which had one when they bought it. The park is owned by Six Fags, not Disney. Please put the crackpipe down.

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If the park were owned by Six Fags and not Six Flags, you can bet your purse strings that we would have lights on the god-damned ferris wheel at Darien Lake - lots of bright and sparkly ones!!! :lmao:
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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby Haymaker » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:19 pm

rjr19 wrote:So the only coaster that may possibly get two trains is Viper, correct?


Viper already has two trains. ME and ROS dont have existing second trains.

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Re: Darien Lake Discussion Thread

Postby SbSteveZ » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:49 pm

^ I’m assuming that comment meant more so “run two trains” not “acquire another one”. Context is very important, my friend.
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