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Re: Hersheypark (HP) Discussion Thread

Postby viper423 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:10 pm

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viper423 wrote:So one question I have. Unless I am mistaken, It appears as though the restaurant, ice cream parlor, and retail shop will be accessible from both inside and outside the park. How will they handle this?


My guess is that they'll only be accessible from the front when the park is closed (as Chocolatetown will be open year-round).


So that begs the question, what defines ChocolateTown? From reading, the fountain, carousel, Starbucks, etc, are all considered part of ChocolateTown. Yet, the carousel, fountain, and starbucks are located within the park and the restaurant, ice cream parlor, and retail are accessible from both (just found that out). I guess this is to be answered later, so will the carousel, starbucks, and fountain be open year round?

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Re: Hersheypark (HP) Discussion Thread

Postby PaTim » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:15 pm

Josh Linn wrote:First and foremost, this expansion looks dope. I’m definitely in the “the current entrance is cool and quaint but it doesn’t work for a park this large” group.

Another interesting thing for me as a local, and something that’s become increasingly interesting over the years, is the Hershey/Dorney dichotomy. In the late 90’s I would say they were fairly similar in stature; you could even give Dorney the edge because Hershey didn’t have a waterpark at the time, but it’s crazy to see the different routes each has taken. Hershey has emerged into a destination park with a roller coaster collection that stacks up with the best in the country, and Dorney has remained relatively stagnant and has been relegated to a local, sort-of-regional-but-not-really park that I would imagine most enthusiasts/park goers are ambivalent about.


I have the same fascination with as you say, the Hershey/Dorney dichotomy.

I live in Eastern PA and we always had many large amusement parks to choose from, but for the most part Dorney was the park of choice in the late 80's/early 90's. As you said the water park was a big reason.

What really gave Dorney the edge was when they built Hercules, which made the headlines as a record(and back) breaking coaster. Then they added Steel Force several years later and it seemed to cement Dorney as the go-to park in this region.

Then the late 90's-today happened and Hershey just blew them out of the water(pun intended) with steady coaster additions and eventually their own water park(with arguably better water rides).

Not that Dorney is bad, but Hersheypark is just superior in almost every single way. This new entrance looks absolutely stunning, and you can't really go wrong with a B&M hyper.

I'm excited for this time next year when I assume they will announce the specs of the new coaster.

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Re: Hersheypark (HP) Discussion Thread

Postby RCjunkie » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:29 pm

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coasterbill wrote:As for the coaster, every B&M hyper is awesome and I'm sure this will be too. They have mass appeal and everyone loves them. I do think it's pretty weird to have two hypercoasters right next to eachother right up front but they'll undoubtedly feel like drastically different experiences. I'll never complain about any park building a super fun, high capacity B&M hyper.

I agree with this 100% - And yes, while I wouldn't "complain" about a big, new, fast, high capacity, B&M being built, it also doesn't make me want to go out of the way to make a special visit to the park.


To get you to visit again though I see they are adding a......2,200-square-foot Starbucks® Store also. :lol:

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Postby fraroc » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:29 pm

In my opinion, Dorney really stopped having a leg to stand on against hershey in 2012, when Skyrush opened and blew everyone's minds. Ranking a coaster that intense, that mind numbingly insane against Steel Force? I don't think so, honey.

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Postby joelwee » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:31 pm

Well, shoot... I was going to plan a 2019 trip to Hershey, but I think I'll push it off until 2020 instead. This looks fantastic!
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Re: Hersheypark (HP) Discussion Thread

Postby vertigomike » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:31 pm

robbalvey wrote:
vertigomike wrote:
alilstronger wrote:
viper423 wrote:So one question I have. Unless I am mistaken, It appears as though the restaurant, ice cream parlor, and retail shop will be accessible from both inside and outside the park. How will they handle this?


I highly doubt they would do that.


Agreed, Bobby. This felt largely like a way to counter the fact that the Chocolate World experience is outside of the park. It always felt like a huge loss on the concession-side for the park the the most immersive part of the Hershey chocolate experience was outside of the park AND there was nothing really inside the park that was as comparable.

I don't understand. People keep saying things like this as though there never was a restaurant, snack locations, or a shop outside the park, but hasn't there ALWAYS been a restaurant, snack locations, and a shop in that front area entrance that you have to pass by on the way to Chocolate World?

It's not as though this new front entrance area is going to introduce things like a restaurant, shops and snack locations that are a new concept for Hersheypark, these things have ALWAYS been there, right?


I look at it this way: it didn't matter if there were shops at the current entrance. Most people -- park attendees and people passing through the town, get their souvenirs at Hershey's Chocolate World. It is a destination anchor attraction unto itself. The gift shops within the park are not. You're right: the additions themselves are not remarkably different concepts. The point though is that this is re-branding and the PR will definitely make it seem as such (as you have already witnessed in the reaction). Why?

Another way to think of it is that we all know many, even thrill seekers, would choose one (Chocolate World) over the other (Hershey Park) for the mere fact that I visit Hershey, PA for the chocolate experience. It was really a blunder that the brand (chocolate) became more identified with the attraction across the lot from the park rather than the park itself. It would be as if Legoland would build the largest LEGO Emporium in the country across the street from LEGOLAND Park (as you really would want Lego lovers to go to the park). If Coca-Cola had a park, I would expect the World of Coca-Cola to be within the all-day park experience not a separate attraction (even if I loves coasters, I would drive to experience coke. Hershey really is no exception). Destination tourist will pay for either, but stand to spend more money at the park rather than a mere store.

I see this really as a re-branding (if I love chocolate, I should want to go the Hershey Park). Especially with locating the larger scale chocolatier confecture experience and the largest Hershey chocolate merchandising venue now within the park gates, as Chocolate World was previously host to both claims to fame in the country).

This is a win-win all around for the Hershey Company.
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Re: Hersheypark (HP) Discussion Thread

Postby coasterbill » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:38 pm

viper423 wrote:So that begs the question, what defines ChocolateTown? From reading, the fountain, carousel, Starbucks, etc, are all considered part of ChocolateTown. Yet, the carousel, fountain, and starbucks are located within the park and the restaurant, ice cream parlor, and retail are accessible from both (just found that out). I guess this is to be answered later, so will the carousel, starbucks, and fountain be open year round?


Oh my god, it's a glorified new entrance and gift shop. No.

Listen to Robb. "ChocolateTown" is a gift shop and a new entrance that's replacing an existing entrance and gift shop. Given the amount of people falling for this marketing ploy hook, line and sinker I feel like Cedar Point missed out on marketing gold by not calling their new entrance area "KeyholeTown" when they built Gatekeeper.

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Re: Hersheypark (HP) Discussion Thread

Postby prozach626 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:42 pm

robbalvey wrote:Thank you. That's what I had thought. While I love the whole idea of this new entrance area as I absoultely HATE what is currently there now, I think people are seeing this announcement and going "Oh, man... it will be GREAT that Hersheypark will now have restaurants, shops, and snack locations OUTSIDE of the park! WOW! What a great idea!!!"

But these things have ALWAYS been there. At least in the 20-something years I've been going to the park. They aren't new, they are just getting a much, MUCH needed rebuild & update!


I remember seeing the restaurant and it looked pretty drab in person. With the other great offerings at Hershey Lodge, we didn't even consider eating there. Hopefully this refresh will make any restaurants or shops look more appealing. I'm sure it will, as intended. Although the whole area looked 'quant' and 'nice,' it was easy to walk by all of the shops without even paying attention to them. They didn't do anything to draw us in. Aside from when we had to go to Dunken Donuts for hangover sandwiches and strong coffee...

Although some people will be upset about the loss of the nostalgia, this seems to be a much needed refresh. For those who want nostalgia, Knoebels has it by the shit load and is not too far away. Hershey Park has different intentions of making money while pleasing guests. They do it well.

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Re: Hersheypark (HP) Discussion Thread

Postby coasterbill » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:50 pm

Here, look. This is the new entrance... I mean, "ChocolateTown". Everything in red is clearly only going to be open when the park is open aside from maybe the bathroom because there would be no reason for any of it to be open otherwise. The rooftop bar is obviously inside the park and will only be open when the park is open.

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