American Dream Discussion Thread

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Re: American Dream Discussion Thread

Postby A.J. » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:18 pm

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jedimaster1227 wrote:I'm excited to see what else they end up putting into the park! Nick Universe at the Mall of America has crammed in a lot and that has been over the course of many years... It'll be interesting to see what the developers do when designing a new park like this from scratch and how much space they'll leave for future additions.

I really don't know how much free space there will be as rent is going to be exorbitant. I hopefully, but not expecting it.

If you have a clever design team, space will never be an issue. What will make or break the potential for expansion is how much leeway they give themselves in regard to the behind-the-scenes stuff - good spots for future structural foundations, an electrical system that can handle much more than they will be using when the park opens, and the like.
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Re: American Dream Discussion Thread

Postby thrillseeker4552 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:28 am

This looks great. The Takabisha clone looks awesome, but I have a feeling that Gerstlauer spinner will be the underdog here. What a crazy layout, especially for a spinning coaster!
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Re: American Dream Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:54 pm

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jedimaster1227 wrote:I'm excited to see what else they end up putting into the park! Nick Universe at the Mall of America has crammed in a lot and that has been over the course of many years... It'll be interesting to see what the developers do when designing a new park like this from scratch and how much space they'll leave for future additions.

I really don't know how much free space there will be as rent is going to be exorbitant. I hopefully, but not expecting it.

If you have a clever design team, space will never be an issue. What will make or break the potential for expansion is how much leeway they give themselves in regard to the behind-the-scenes stuff - good spots for future structural foundations, an electrical system that can handle much more than they will be using when the park opens, and the like.


I wouldn't disagree with you, but being in a enclosed area will make expansion much more difficult if the room for expansion is not already set aside. Leaving empty floor space in such a high rent mall will initially hurt margins and they need to take in money from the beginning.
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Re: American Dream Discussion Thread

Postby A.J. » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:09 pm

That's true, but as long as the behind-the-scenes work is sorted they could work in more tracked rides, like additional roller coasters or a flume ride. Plus, there are other flat rides that they could do. They could elevate loading areas above existing pathways, like Moreys' Flying Skooters or Tivoli Gardens' Star Flyer, so long as a ride only requires a single central foundation.
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Re: American Dream Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:34 pm

A.J. wrote:That's true, but as long as the behind-the-scenes work is sorted they could work in more tracked rides, like additional roller coasters or a flume ride. Plus, there are other flat rides that they could do. They could elevate loading areas above existing pathways, like Moreys' Flying Skooters or Tivoli Gardens' Star Flyer, so long as a ride only requires a single central foundation.


I know, myself and many others were shocked when Nick Universe at MOA added Spongebob.
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Re: American Dream Discussion Thread

Postby Rollercoaster Rider » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:27 pm

larrygator wrote:
A.J. wrote:That's true, but as long as the behind-the-scenes work is sorted they could work in more tracked rides, like additional roller coasters or a flume ride. Plus, there are other flat rides that they could do. They could elevate loading areas above existing pathways, like Moreys' Flying Skooters or Tivoli Gardens' Star Flyer, so long as a ride only requires a single central foundation.


I know, myself and many others were shocked when Nick Universe at MOA added Spongebob.


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Re: American Dream Discussion Thread

Postby jedimaster1227 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:08 am

larrygator wrote:I know, myself and many others were shocked when Nick Universe at MOA added Spongebob.


My point exactly. The park was already fairly dense before Nick Universe took over and yet they were able to add a good deal including two coasters, a few new flat rides and the ropes course, all within the existing footprint of park's borders. I'm very curious to see if American Dream is being designed with such feasibility in mind... Growing demand (or waning demand) will justify expansion over the years, and since the park can't likely build out beyond their structural borders, they'll have to be able to build into the footprint they've already littered with attractions from the start.
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Re: American Dream Discussion Thread

Postby gerstlaueringvar » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:45 am

^Or buy some of their rides in portable models so they can just swap them out when ridership drops.

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Re: American Dream Discussion Thread

Postby HeyItsKrabs » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:26 am

Does anyone know if the 2019 opening will include that ferris wheel that was announced back in 2009? It's the one part of the complex that I have heard about for next year's opening and it's looking more and more likely to me that it'll be cancelled.

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Re: American Dream Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:02 am

The Observation Wheel is still prominently featured on their website
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