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Re: Silver Dollar City (SDC) Discussion Thread

Postby MidwestThemeParks » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:48 am

ytterbiumanalyst wrote:Yes, it was sunny and the storm came suddenly as you looked at it on the ground, but on radar it had been coming for some time.


If this was the case, then there should’ve been someone telling the driver to not go into the water. It shouldn’t be the drivers responsibility to check the radar and see what’s coming. I wonder if they had anyone monitoring the storms coming.
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Postby CedarFanboy » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:05 am

MidwestThemeParks wrote: It shouldn’t be the drivers responsibility to check the radar and see what’s coming.

That's quite a bold statement, especially since the driver should be responsible for the safety of their passengers.

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Postby thrillrider » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:19 am

Very sad.
My heart goes out to the victims and there families. :cry:

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Postby TEDodd » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:28 am

CedarFanboy wrote:That's quite a bold statement, especially since the driver should be responsible for the safety of their passengers.


So, every operator is responsible for monitoring the weather instead of one person for the location?

You feel the same for other amusement rides? The guy at the coaster control panel is supposed to track the weather instead of park operations doing it?

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Re: Silver Dollar City (SDC) Discussion Thread

Postby coasterbill » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:31 am

With a warning like that with that type of advanced warning it seems like it was a well formed line of storms that was already on radar and tracking through the area. If we were dealing with a pop-up storm I would almost understand but you wouldn't have that type of advanced warning with specific information from a pop-up storm, nor would you have a Severe Thunderstorm Warning in advance (though you'd likely have a watch). The storm had wind speeds of 63 and the warning said 60 so they were basically spot on. They f*cked up royally and there's no way to sugarcoat it. The storm was exactly as advertised and the NWS gave them plenty of advanced warning.

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MidwestThemeParks wrote: It shouldn’t be the drivers responsibility to check the radar and see what’s coming.

That's quite a bold statement, especially since the driver should be responsible for the safety of their passengers.


I don't know the specifics of their operation, but my guess is that there's someone who watches the weather and communicates with the drivers. There's no way they ask each and every driver to look at radar and make weather forecasts while driving a 30 something passenger bus / boat. The drivers should be focused on driving and leading a tour.
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Re: Silver Dollar City (SDC) Discussion Thread

Postby ytterbiumanalyst » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:33 am

MidwestThemeParks wrote:
ytterbiumanalyst wrote:Yes, it was sunny and the storm came suddenly as you looked at it on the ground, but on radar it had been coming for some time.


If this was the case, then there should’ve been someone telling the driver to not go into the water. It shouldn’t be the drivers responsibility to check the radar and see what’s coming. I wonder if they had anyone monitoring the storms coming.

It's my understanding that they do. The last time I was on it a couple of years ago, we were not able to go on Table Rock because the winds were too high, so they took us on Taneycomo instead, where the cliffs shielded and the wind speed was lower. So they do have some sort of system in place, though I don't have any sort of detailed knowledge of it.
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Re: Silver Dollar City (SDC) Discussion Thread

Postby CedarFanboy » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:53 am

coasterbill wrote:With a warning like that with that type of advanced warning it seems like it was a well formed line of storms that was already on radar and tracking through the area. If we were dealing with a pop-up storm I would almost understand but you wouldn't have that type of advanced warning with specific information from a pop-up storm, nor would you have a Severe Thunderstorm Warning in advance (though you'd likely have a watch). The storm had wind speeds of 63 and the warning said 60 so they were basically spot on. They f*cked up royally and there's no way to sugarcoat it. The storm was exactly as advertised and the NWS gave them plenty of advanced warning.

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MidwestThemeParks wrote: It shouldn’t be the drivers responsibility to check the radar and see what’s coming.

That's quite a bold statement, especially since the driver should be responsible for the safety of their passengers.


I don't know the specifics of their operation, but my guess is that there's someone who watches the weather and communicates with the drivers. There's no way they ask each and every driver to look at radar and make weather forecasts while driving a 30 something passenger bus / boat. The drivers should be focused on driving and leading a tour.

Good point, I didn't think of that. There had to have been a breakdown in communication somewhere that led to the driver being caught off guard, especially with the storm being warned for half an hour. I just got back from Brason on Sunday, and it's very hard for me to even comprehend that an accident of this magnitude could happen in such a wonderful place. I hope they find out what happened so situations like this one do not occur in the future.

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Re: Silver Dollar City (SDC) Discussion Thread

Postby ilrider » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:06 pm

Great article from the Washington Post that Chicago TV meteorologist Tom Skilling just posted on his FB page. This should shut up anyone you might find still trying to defend the boat company:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/07/20/the-violent-storm-behind-the-duck-boat-tragedy-was-well-predicted-not-out-of-nowhere/?utm_term=.1e7c736a8b31
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Re: Silver Dollar City (SDC) Discussion Thread

Postby TEDodd » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:15 pm

CedarFanboy wrote:There had to have been a breakdown in communication somewhere that led to the driver being caught off guard, especially with the storm being warned for half an hour.


At least 2 were out as they are both on the video.

How many did they have?

System breakdown? Storm move in faster than expected? Not faster than forecast, but we've all had forecasts off by 20 min or more. And I've seen plenty hit faster than forecast.

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Re: Silver Dollar City (SDC) Discussion Thread

Postby MidwestThemeParks » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:05 pm

ilrider wrote:Great article from the Washington Post that Chicago TV meteorologist Tom Skilling just posted on his FB page. This should shut up anyone you might find still trying to defend the boat company:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/07/20/the-violent-storm-behind-the-duck-boat-tragedy-was-well-predicted-not-out-of-nowhere/?utm_term=.1e7c736a8b31


The company is definitely at fault because someone should’ve seen the storm coming and warned the drivers to not go in the water. It is very possible, however, that the drivers of the boats that were in the water were unaware of the severe storm being so close to them.

I just don’t understand why the boats have those covers for the windows. In what situations are those useful or necessary to have? When those things are up there is no possible way 31 people would be able to escape in this type of situation.

Also, SDC tweeted that the Showboat will be closed again tomorrow.
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