Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby gp1086 » Tue May 22, 2018 7:03 pm

Just booked a trip for next week and am pretty pumped. Some quick questions:

(1) Assume Tuesday / Wednesday (5/29 and 5/30) will be significantly less crowded than Monday, Memorial Day (5/28)? I've got 2 days of passes to use.

(2) Best strategy for hour early entry to the park? Steel Vengeance, Maverick, and then Millennium Force?

(3) On the one day I don't go to Cedar Point, any suggestions for a day trip? Was thinking Cuyahoga Valley National Park would be cool to check out for some hiking / bike rides, but open to ideas. Maybe Put-in-Bay?

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby hendrixmarshalljames » Tue May 22, 2018 8:03 pm

I've found a nifty tool...

https://public.tableau.com/views/CedarPointInteractiveCrowdCalendar/CPCrowdPredictor?:embed=y&:display_count=ye&:showVizHome=no

Just input the Forecast, Temp that's expected, the date you plan on going...shows estimated crowd and estimated wait times at different times of the day. But when I get there, I usually just look at the parking lot and go from there. And yes, I wasn't kidding on the earlier post...I ditch everything so I'm not weighed down for the first 6 hours or so.

Early entry with PP, (Don't be weighed down) I usually go to the Resort entrance and beeline to Steel Vengeance. First time for this one, so I'm guessing after the first ride the park will be open anyways. But it maybe worth getting there earlier and seeing if the marina entrance has less people. Remember, the Coaster Freaks will be gearing up for Coastermania next week. There might be a lot of people at the Resort Entrance because they know its a shorter sprint...I mean walk. Safety first!

A couple of other tidbits - Sometimes a traffic pointer wants to know why I'm headed to the backside, I tell 'em I have reservations at Lighthouse Point for that night and want to minimize my down time for checking in later in the day. It's always worked for me, but I've only been asked twice out of maybe 40 visits. And most times I do have reservations anyways.

I've heard they maybe a little more strict this year, but the worst thing that can happen is to find a good spot and walk the distance. Using the Resort Shuttle phone works, too. (For folks who may have a tough time with the walk).

Day trips I always recommend the RNR HOF, and hit up a B Spot on your way back to Sandusky.
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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby CP Maverick » Tue May 22, 2018 8:04 pm

1. It's significantly dependent on weather. Memorial Day is usually not very busy considering it's a holiday. On average, Tuesday and Wednesday should not be as busy as Monday, but your mileage may vary. The park may or may not have as many employees working Tuesday and Wednesday as well, so the lower business may not be as noticeable.

2. With the inconsistency of operations and the capacity of the listed rides, that's a good plan. Be prepared to make adjustments based on ride availability.

3. I enjoyed biking around Kelley's Island, and stopping at the winery there. Put-In-Bay is good for a tourist and historic spot. You've got a significant drive to the better areas south of Cleveland for hiking and biking.

hendrixmarshalljames wrote:A couple of other tidbits - Sometimes a traffic pointer wants to know why I'm headed to the backside, I tell 'em I have reservations at Lighthouse Point for that night and want to minimize my down time for checking in later in the day. It's always worked for me, but I've only been asked twice out of maybe 40 visits. And most times I do have reservations anyways.


I have never been asked about driving to the back. I usually just indicate to the lot attendants that I know where I want to go.
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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby gp1086 » Tue May 22, 2018 8:18 pm

Great feedback and that tool is great!

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby clem2754 » Tue May 22, 2018 8:59 pm

coasterbill wrote:Since the ride opened for the day it hasn't gone down. I call bullsh*t.

If the restraint wasn't functioning properly they wouldn't be running the ride.
so I can actually speak to what happen. On the third train out I was seated in row 10, seat nearest to the stairs which you walk up. When I fasten the seat belt, they pulled down the lap bar. I did double check and it moved up. Their ops do a double check so I figure the second guy would catch it after I had moved it but he didn’t. The restraint was still moving and not locking into place. I was trying to get their attention as was the guy next to me. The train starts to move one of the ops sees that I am able to move the restraint and gets the guy to stop the ride at the same time he did this I press down and it locked into place. The train moved about 6 loading spots as I was stopped at row 4. At this point they took everyone off the train in groups of 4 starting at the back. They then cycled that train through and had it stop in the station. They then had the tech get the second train ready to swap out. Something must have still been wrong and they said they were going to have a long shut down and suggested everyone leave. At that point one of the operations asked me to come with him to talk with their ride operation manager. I met her and gave her a recap of what happen. She was most interested in if I could move the lap bar while the train was moving. She then explained how the locking system worked with the cylinders one controls it when the trAin is stop and one while it was in motion. After the 5 minute discussion she gave me 5 skip the line passes for anything but steel vengeance and one for steel vengeance. The part that through me for a loop was the screen was showing green but I was able to move it. A screen shows that all of the trains are locked just like the one at fury and the riders can see it. Ride was shut down for 5-6 hours. I did ride it later and they blocked off row 10.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby clem2754 » Tue May 22, 2018 9:06 pm

coasterbill wrote:This guy on Reddit is claiming that the ride showed the bar as locked but he could still move it up and he was telling the ride operator not to dispatch the train. Finally, an op saw it as it was half way out of the station while the guy was trying to get his attention and he hit the E-stop.

I mean, yeah... maybe it's just an issue with one specific seat but I feel like if you have a computer system telling you that a lap bar is verified while in reality it's not holding the rider in at all and they were about 60-90 seconds away from possibly killing a rider depending on how much the bar was actually moving and how well the seatbelt was fastened they would do more than just close off the row and load the next train without looking a little further into that. I guess it's possible that the bar was only moving to a certain point in which case it's not quite as alarming but that's not really how it was conveyed.

I feel like someone's exaggerating a bit here. If there was really a loaded train heading for the lift hill where a rider's lap bar wasn't locked that's kind of a big deal. Personally, I'm skeptical that this actually happened in the way that they claim it happened.

I didn’t post about it on reddit so that must have been an account from someone else in the station. How it was described to me was that when the train started to move it was able to lick due to the different cylinder controlling it. It did finally lock after the train started to move but the operator in the booth saw something in the booth which triggered them shut it down.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroGravity55 » Tue May 22, 2018 9:23 pm

Sounds like a fail safe. The cylinder that locks in the station should be the one that stays locked, but if it fails, the second one takes over. What I'm trying to wrap my head around is if the restraint wasn't locked, why was everything showing green? To me, that should never happen.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby Visionist » Wed May 23, 2018 5:48 am

More likely a mechanical fault than a software one if the computer gave the All Clear. Defect in the cylinder allowed free-play whilst the sensor showed a locked bar maybe.

It is very weird though as these rides are checked and cycled every morning.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby Card » Wed May 23, 2018 9:52 am

gp1086 wrote:(3) On the one day I don't go to Cedar Point, any suggestions for a day trip? Was thinking Cuyahoga Valley National Park would be cool to check out for some hiking / bike rides, but open to ideas. Maybe Put-in-Bay?

Not sure if you're into wildlife at all, but Sheldon Marsh and Pipe Creek are really cool places to walk around. Haven't checked out the nearby Resthaven, though I've heard some good things about it. As a birding hobbyist, I wish I had the opportunity to check them out when I go up to visit tomorrow and Friday (lots of migrating birds moving their way through), but I doubt I'll get the opportunity.

In any case, whatever you decide to do, have fun, dude!

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby Stealth1 » Wed May 23, 2018 4:31 pm

Just got back from Cedar Point. Was there from Sunday til today. Stayed at Breakers for the first time and all I can say I wished I had stayed there sooner. I have always stayed off site and I have found most of those hotels leave a lot to be desired.

On to Cedar Point itself. Steel Vengence is now my favorite coaster there. As a guy in the Hotel said "its riding Maverick on steroids" . I did manage to get 2 rides on it yesterday even with it being down most of the day. My 2nd ride was during the Pass Holder event. For those who say stay away in May, I find its the best time to go. Lines are at most 15 to 20 minutes tops. In August when I go back I know I will have to get Fastlane as its usually really busy then.

After all the years I have been going to Cedar Point and having Wonderland as my home park, I have notice big differences that make it feel like they aren't part of the same chain.

Having a signature sitdown restaurant in the park is strange to me. Cedar Point has Melt and Chickie and Petes. I can't even think of one at Wonderland.

All the ride ops on all the coasters at Cedar Point try to entertain the riders as well as tell you about the coaster. I never see that at Wonderland. I think the biggest thing that blows my mind is how at Wonderland they never mention Platinum passes anywhere.

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