ladies and gentlemen i have amazing news. ive talked to larry giles and some members of the creative design team. as i was part of a group of designers that helped design alot of what u see in the black forest . and they said for howl-o-scream they plan on incorporating a FOURTH show inside the black forest event building. he denied alotta questions i have asked him and said that he wants me to work on some of the new effects . but what he did say that stood out was fog, headlights. new scenery and special effects such as wind to give the effect of swaying trees. but the main thing he said was that she show would happen annually not periodically like the other three. tomorrow i will go talk to the president to confirm this but then again this did come out larrys mouth. i was soo excited to hear this that i wanted to share with tpr.