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  1. SF in the investor presentation made it pretty obvious they are going to clone water coasters. They spoke of them in the same way they talked about JL's and 4D's. They were grouped in their slide presentation as the chains marquee rides. They emphasized the relative low cost, high ROI, patron interest, based on Thunder Rapids success. There will likely be at least 2 water coasters in 2018 IMO. They way they spoke of them I could see this going into rapid clone production with 2 per year for 2 to 3 years, just like JL's, 4D's, Skyscreamers.
  2. Lol...Relocate X2 What's a Zamberla frisbee disko? They disko rides Zamperla has are Mega disko and they got that in 2017. Lol..Wing coaster
  3. Yeah, they have, but this is Six Flags we're talking about. If it fits in a small footprint and is cheap, they're buying it. Which is why the dueling Crazy Couches are what they're building. SF could plop down 3 of these at 2M/each in a heart beat and market them as coasters. They knock out 3 parks for just 6M and most patrons will be okay with it unlike superloops.
  4. SFMM is not the only park without a skyscreamer. SFGAm and Escape don't have them. We don't "know" what SFOG is getting, it's speculated. They could just do a complete retrack like CF did with Ghost Rider and mad that ride 100x better. It's now the best ride in the park. Wouldn't matter. A re-track is STILL a coaster project that requires an investment from SF, so I'm not sure what you mean. So, your logic is any investment even a small one. The perspective SF hopes people have towards their parks, minimalist.
  5. SFMM is not the only park without a skyscreamer. SFGAm and Escape don't have them. We don't "know" what SFOG is getting, it's speculated. They could just do a complete retrack like CF did with Ghost Rider and mad that ride 100x better. It's now the best ride in the park.
  6. World's highest Skyscreamer. World's first Skywarp(cloned at several parks in 2018). Is this true, or just a guess? Just my prediction. I think the "world's first and north american first" SF claimed are going to be things like this. I think many people, as I saw posted from other sites, think these are going to be big expensive things. They probably won't be. It's SF so the hype will likely be more than the the result, thus my prediction. 1) world's tallest skyscreamer..420ft...cost just a little more than 410 ft skyscreamer 2) world's first skywarp...cost 2M 3) world's first 2nd gen enterprise... 4) world's tallest water coaster...current tallest water coaster was 3.5M so SF could do it for under 5M 5) first in north american flat ride that has been in europe 6) world's first with 1 of the S&S concept coasters...S&S is in to low cost so probably under 10M for their concepts
  7. Believe it or not some parks overseas are still buying new Boomerangs, this could be one.
  8. World's highest Skyscreamer. World's first Skywarp(cloned at several parks in 2018).
  9. Skywarp comment didn't go unnoticed. Only problem with that is Skyline said they aren't announcing till IAAPA and GAdv already has a super loop and they are the same genre of rides. The Skywarp SF rumor deal made a ton of sense b/c it's a SF type ride till Skyline made their announcement on not telling till IAAPA It's all in word choice, my man. Just because Skyline isn't telling doesn't mean Six Flags won't tell prior to that. I always found the whole thing came off odd. The rumor came out and it's almost as if Skyline felt a no comment would be taken as a pseudo confirmation and fuel the rumor more. The announcement at IAAPA may be a ruse to to try to throw people off the SF and Skyline deal.
  10. 4D spec capacity is 720/hr..Raptor 600/hr Sure, but from the reports I've seen, those 4D coaster are breaking down all the time so I bet they're a little closer. My point is that if SF is installing those things, they clearly don't give much weight to capacity when purchasing. I foresee Raptors being installed at both SF and CF parks next year (not SFGAdv), but that's my personal speculation I agree, the capacity argument is often overblown. SF has put low capacity 4D's at GAdv, MM, GAm, which are SF's 3 most attended parks. On the Raptors capacity there was some enthusiast musing, don't even know if RMC would do it, of dueling Raptors, which would make capacity 1200/hr(600/hr per track)
  11. Skywarp comment didn't go unnoticed. Only problem with that is Skyline said they aren't announcing till IAAPA and GAdv already has a super loop and they are the same genre of rides. The Skywarp SF rumor deal made a ton of sense b/c it's a SF type ride till Skyline made their announcement on not telling till IAAPA
  12. 4D spec capacity is 720/hr..Raptor 600/hr 4 of 5 trips already decided and announcements aren't changing them unless there is a giga or trex out of the blue. I want to try to ride all the RMC's and then keep up on them as they build more. The problematic one will be Wildfire, I have plans to hit all the current/known North American RMC's by 2019. 2018 April- KD(RMC Hurler), BGW May - SFDK(Joker), CGA(RMC Raptor???) June - Cedar Point(RMC Mean Streak), Kings Island July - Carowinds, Dollywood(Lightining Rod), SFOG(RMC GA Cyclone??) August - ??? SFOT (Tx Giant) and SFFT(Iron Rattler) likely but only trip not certain on could be spring 2019.
  13. Six Flags doesn't "save up", that's not how their capital investments plan is structured. The cap exp has been hinted as decreasing as % of North American revenue. Also, 2017 is not looking good after Q1 and Q2. Unless Q3 and Q4 blow the roof off look for NA revenue to be down for the year and thus less for rides in the following fiscal year.
  14. Not a waterpark person, but haven't seen any world's first waterpark stuff come out. I am kind of leaning towards the 2nd gen enterprise. I don't think they are getting a coaster so soon and I can't think of any other world first flats. If they would have said north american first, than there's a good list. I also think the 2nd gen enterprise concept videos looked like it was a good ride. I am a fan of the old Huss enterprises, so slight bias. Luna Park NYC already has a second generation Enterprise, so if it was that, it wouldn't be a "world's first". No they don't that's a Zamperla Endevour which is the same thing SFOT got.
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